Valmet Eräkeitin

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  1. Camp numao Japan SotM Winner

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    @SveaSizzler

    I know about Spam but I've never bought it, so I'll give it a try.:thumbup:


    @XF1988

    Thank you.
    This is a genuine motorcycle part.;)
     
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    It's an acquired taste.
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    is the origin of the product name. Since the internet it's gotten a bad name. If your religion is not involved with dietary laws like Kosher and Halal, you should like it. Soldiers in the War were issued nothing but Spam, so monotony killed its appeal.
    Very handy camping food.

    The German Army was most fond of <<Erbswurst>> literally, 'pea sausage' made by Knorr. It was made from 1871 thru 2018. It was composed of split peas, ham or bacon bits, flour and fat pressed into a tube in segments resembling a sausage. It was the most common food cooked in Kochgeschirren. Two or three segments in boiling water made a hearty soup, if a Soldat was stuck out at a lonely outpost and forgotten by the company mess sergeant, adding stolen vegetables and pieces of cut sausage made it better.
    Since they stopped making it 7 years ago, I've never had it. I guess I could replicate the taste with canned pea soup and other ingredients. I just have yet to try.

    Bon Apetit!
     
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    I think Monty Python may have struck a few blows to the reputation of spam well before the Internet.


    Cheers

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    I grew up with a mother of limited cooking ability/interest, and one of her staple dishes was scalloped potatoes and spam. Pretty sure that's where I got my life-long aversion to the stuff, and it was long before the internet or me being introduced to the Monty Python song.
     
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    You mean that wasn't Hormel Corporation's cunning plan to put advertizing over on the BBC?
    I'm shocked.
     
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    From your messages, I understand that Spam is delicious, but eating it all the time can be tiring.

    This is the first time I've heard that the spam in spam emails comes from food.
     
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    So I broke out an Italian mess pail and some camp pans and lit off my Antarctic Whisperlite. I fried some cut up roast pork loin in bacon fat, then warmed up a can of Black Beans and a can of White Corn and a bit of Pico de Gallo [salsa bits -- onion, tomato, chiles, ?] and combined them all in the billy pot.
    Meanwhile I grilled a Rib Eye steak on a GharBroil tailgate Propane BBQ but I olny Got pix of the flare ups. Too serious cooking steak to take photos.
     

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    There are still many types of dishes!

    This comment section is starting to look like a mess kit recipe list.
    I'll start by trying some of the easier dishes. Thank you.
     
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    20240217_163349.jpg 20240217_163315.jpg There are a lot of mess kit recipes and cooking demos on YouTube. For a few years, there was even a Canteen Cup Tuesday, with multiple participants almost competing with videos of lunch in a canteen cup. [Usually about 20 oz. / ~2/3 L]
    The M31 Kochgesshir pail holds 1-1/2 liters -- one liter comfortably -- without fear of overflowing.
    The Swedish military << Snussbork>>[Filthy box] M40/44 System had an aluminum windscreen that has rails inside to hold either the top or bottom of the mess tin above a Trangia burner. This set up works very well and amplifies the effectiveness of the alcohol burner. The military burners were a Trangia design. I have one built by Svea and one by Trangia, Bigger than the commercial Trangia burner.
    The Swedish kits had an oval form. The Kidney shaped ones work, but there's a hot flume at the concave section. The vintage Italian Army Gamello I used for the Pork, Black Beans and Corn, in pix above, is D-shaped.

    I also saw on YT that the MSR Whisperlite can be adapted to the Trangia 25 Cook kit if one removes the Whisperlite's legs. I want to try this next.

    Sorry if I'm hijacking your Valmet post and turning it into a cooking show.
     
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    I'm glad to hear this information because it's hard to find.

    It's a cooking show designed specifically for the outdoors.:)
     
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    20250607_180917.jpg The guy who put a Whisperlite International into a Trangia cookset used a #27. When I tried it with my HA #25, the Burner-to-fuel-bottle hose was too short, or the base diameter was too big. The burner is forced to tilt up on one side. Possibly a low mousehole cutout at the bottom of the base, but I am loathe to cut into my nice Hard Anodized aluminum Trangia set. I have a generic ''gassie'' burner with a long remote fuel tube. It connects to isobutane cannisters. But I wanted to play with Coleman gas.
    With 100* plus summer days in Tucson, winter camping has a low priority.

    The MSR Whisperlite in a Trangia 27 YouTube video was produced by Tracy Moorehead, AKA Black Wolf Design.
     
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    So there is a tool like this.
    Is it a windbreak? ?
     
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    Numao, If you're not familiar with the Trangia line of StormCookers, you should look them up. That will explain the system better than I can.
    But, yes, the part seen in my picture above is the lower half of a Trangia 25 windbreaker. The upper half locks onto it and has 3 pot supports.
    For travel, the Lower windscreen inverts, the upper nests inside, followed by the larger pot, smaller pot, and a kettle [if you have it] The Trangia Alcohol Burner is inside that [in a yellow plastic bag] and the fry pan tops the kit. A strap secures the rig. Very neat kit. Around since the 1950s. Adapted more recently to isobutane burners for longer burn times and better simmering.
    Black Wolf Design attempted to use a white gas burner in place of the isobutane cartridge gas burner.
     
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    I didn't realize you'd replied.
    Thank you for letting me know!
     
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    I made a video.
    I'd be happy if you could take a look if you have time.

     
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    Thanks @Camp numao for the video. I recently became the proud owner of a Valmet peanut stove. I haven't gotten around to playing with it and after watching your video and seeing it in action, I don't have to.

    Ben
     
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    Excellent video, Numao. I've heard of Valmet. They also produced firearms. In 1975 I visited the Marine Exchange [MCX] at Camp Lejeune, NC, and they had a Valmet-made copy of a Soviet AK-47. It was much higher quality than the Communist assault rifle. I was stationed at nearby MCAS Cherry Point, NC.
    The Valmet stove looks like it would be compatible with the Finnish Army mess tin. An exact copy of the German one, but with a castle tower logo [Finnish military emblem] stamping. Maybe even fit inside, but I'd need to own both to play around with them.
     
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    Thank you for watching the video.
    It's an honor.

    Now that you've watched, go find that Valmet hidden in your amazing collection.



    @SveaSizzler

    Thank you for the interesting information about Valmet.

    It has once again become clear that Finnish industrial technology is extremely high.
    I see, with this shape it would certainly fit into a Finnish case.
    Unfortunately I don't have a case, so I'll look forward to someone checking it out.haha.