Willander Svea No.1 1904-7 c/w original roarer tube burner

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  1. igh371

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    Talking about a long wait for a bus then 2 come along together, well barely have I posted this Willander Svea No.1 than here comes along another one, and a new question. The new question is in relation to the burner. This new example is generally much better preserved than that linked above, certainly well used but better preserved. And the tube burner on this one has one crucial difference. It is unmarked, no 'Svea No.1' marking:
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    Given the excellent general state of preservation of this example I think it can be taken as given that this is definitely the original presentation of the Nyberg Willander No.1 tube burner. So in that case do those tube burners which carry the 'Svea No1' (or Svea No.0') designation on the outside of the skirt date from slightly later in the Willander production period, then carried over into the Sievert era? or were those designation markings not added until after Max Sievert had taken over the marketing of Svea stoves in 1908? (c/f this Sievert era example)

    As for the stove as a whole it is worth comparing details in the photos below with @Nicola Francesco Elia's excellent example.

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    (note the dumpier feet on Willander production compared to the Sievert era wider pads)

    The burner performs admirably after only a change of NRV pip (cork of course) and a new pump leather to pressurise the tank; despite fighting the gusts of wind coming into the shed from Storm Floris raging outside:)

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    @igh371 Ian a super example, congratulations!

    The “801” on this one is comparable to my Svecia 1 tube roarer without markings. Intriguing. Early Svecia No 1 1908-10 with 128 Tube Burner

    Is possible that Svea No 1 on the burner was added when Willander left Svea?

    The “patent” silent burner on my Willander Svea 1 brings the Svea engraving on one side of the burner hex base.

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    That would seem plausible, and that would be early in the Sievert Svea era. Also I notice that none of the known Willander Sveas seem to have had the deep dimple spirit cups that are so characteristic of Sievert era Svea stoves. Another Sievert 'upgrade'?
     
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    Thanks Nicola, I had failed to note that. So now I've had this stove of mine outside in the sun, checked round the burner hex, one side looked promising under the soot - so cleaned off - and voila, there it is, 'SVEA' on one of the hex flat just like on yours!
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    So that would appear to confirm it, an original burner specifically datable to c.1904-6 at least:content:
     
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    @igh371 so that’s great, final confirmation of very first edition in my opinion :)

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    @igh371

    One of the truths about stoves is that unengraved stoves are the oldest.
    To prove this, you gave us another example.
    Very impressive. thank you
     
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    Splendid example, congratulations!
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