My Fine Find and First Fettle...

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  1. Matukat

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    My first fettle is going to be a doosy. I couldn't resist, I found one of these;
    KampKook model 3

    It's either the 3rd or 4th stove down the page, or it's a hybrid of the two. Mine had legs like the 4th one we think, but the lid has two little wire hinges. The lid appears to have never had the wings, but it doesn't seem to be a detachable lid either. The tin plate says KampKook Model 3 Patented 1922(reissue) No legs, grate or pump included, but the tank has a two piece valve where you seal it after pumping with the seperate pump. Now where will I ever get THAT??!??!?!?? :lol: :lol: :lol:

    This was one of the stoves I mentioned in the Clubhouse. I had to go back and get it, it was priced at $3.95 + tax usd. :D :D :D :shock: :shock: :shock: :D :D :D

    Here's why so cheap: Mine looks like THIS

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    Don't know if you can see it, but the last pic I tried to get the crayon marked price to show. :)

    I have a full can of black stove/BBQ paint. I don't know what exactly to prep it with. I started with a degreaser and hosed it off. It has a bent generator tube, slightly caved in lid and an improvised latch, which I have removed.
    Any and all advice from my stove brothers will be appreciated!!!!
    (There are still a couple of suitcase stoves to be grabbed over there, wish I could justify more expenditure, but I do think I grabbed the oldest of the lot.)
    All the Best!
    Randy
     
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    I am just a little terrified of my bent generator. This model looks to be earlier than the model 3 on Terrance's website. It only lists the 1922 (reissue) and not the rest as shown on the tin plate. The manifold and second burner control are fine, (at least as far as ease of turning on the control valve key). The generator and main valve need help. The valve seems too stiff to turn, I oiled it and turned it just a tiny bit. Don't want to break it. I have looked at the Coleman rebuild referenced in the Fettling tutorial. Anyone point me in a direction for a more delicate situation?
    I have no paint stripper in the house, so the case will wait for stripping till Tuesday afternoon. I only have black stove paint and wonder if it was OD or Hunter green or black or what originally. Thoughts? Thanks guys!
    Best,
    Randy
     
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    So, I gently straightened the generator tube by hand, slow, easy, ok. You can see through the spring from one end to the other. Got the pricker out, got the jet off, shot the tube with carb cleaner, rinsed, oiled....spring won't come out and had a hell of a time getting th end of the spring back in. Tube is ALMOST but not quite perfectly straight AND when reassembled the pricker won't go in the jet hole.....erk, ack, erk....erk...erk! 80 year old gas residue is special..... :D Degreased the manifold with engine cleaner....let it sit 20 minutes. Still black. Found paint stripper in basement....tomorrow....strip box and do the best I can to straighten it up a bit.
    :? I'll have to order a decal from the reproduction guy. Nice.
     
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    try soaking the old gas gunk in M.E.K, I've had good luck with that, HOWEVER, M.E.K. is nasty stuff, and evaporates quickly leaving a residue Don't get it on your hands (It is absorbed thru your skin) and do it in a well ventilated area.

    I?d keep the used M.E.K. in an old Coleman can or something...
     
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    Patrick, I have two of those they are a KampKook #2 Both of my burn like a house of fire, It looks as if yours are missing the feet also, they are a heavy gauge rod with a small 90 degree bend in the end. As for the spring it is probably carboned in there and using some heat and quench it sometimes comes free. The spring is the part that needs to be very clean, they get a carbond buildup on them and stop vaporizing the fuel correctly, do all you can to get it out if you can, your stove will run better
    Keep going its looking good
     
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    It is Wade? Thanks for the tips! I am cooking the case in a electrolysis tub right now, seems to be working well , slow but sure. I'm Randy, I just sent you a pm with a little more stuff about the rockhounding. You are the one with the pics of about twenty lanterns at night in your front yard? Very nice!!
    Thanks again!
    Randy
     
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    Hey, Matukat,

    Your Kamp Kook looks like it will be an outstanding stove for you, once you fettle and paint it up a bit! I look forward to seeing how your efforts turn out, and to some photos of your new baby, up and running!! It's great that you have Split Bus so close to you, as he's a good man at fettling, and knows lots of tricks of the trade, not to mention just being a good man, period!! Thanks for sharing your new baby with us, and keep us posted as to how it's refurbishing goes. Take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
    Doc (who is soon to follow in your footsteps with his 1924 Coleman #9!) ;) 8) :D
     
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    Trouble is the whole of the Rocky Mountains divides us! It's a bit of a journey, even in good weather. Hunterbug and Theacox are closer to me and easier travel. If we ever get our selves organized at my house, maybe I can get around to meeting some of the other Front Rangers.
    My KampKook is one poor beat up step child of a stove, but hey, maybe I can save it! At least I'm trying. :lol: :lol: :lol:
    I am thinking I will use "gutter spikes" to fabricate the legs. Whaddya think?
    All the best Doc and All of you!!
    Randy
     
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    I'm no expert by a long shot when it comes to coilers, but that has got to be the most beautiful one I've ever seen. what era?
     
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    Hobo won,
    What coiler are you referring to? This stove is an ancient two burner suitcase. If you went to the Terrance Marsh page, there are other stoves there, but the KampKook is the one I found 3rd or 4th down on the page I linked.
    Best,
    Randy
     
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    in the link; the second stove down is a coiler w/ a nice wind screen and stand set up
     
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    Spring has sprung, Fall is fell
    This #$%#%^&@$% fettle, ain't going so well!

    So I found a rod which I was able to drive into one end of the tube and actually get the spring moving out of the tube with. Had it halfway out and tried to "unscrew" it, and got the distended thing in the middle.....but ....IT"S OUT!!!!

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    You probably can't tell, but most of the paint is off of the case, lots of electrolysis, but still needs steel wool I think as final prep. Very little paint left, just flakes and chips.

    Onward through the fog...........
     
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    Randy,
    I think a new coil can be wound out of some suitable wire if that one won't "rewind". Doubt that its a spring steel., just some sort of suitable wire wrapping to function as a heat sink. I have and old Coleman 426 generator that has a coil in the generator that might work if its close to the same size. About 10" long and a little less than 3/8" diameter......memory serving.

    Best,
    Bob
     
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    Thanks Bob,
    That's just what I was doing. I got it to rewind around the coat hanger, but it's still longer than the tube... :roll: The generator tube is only 4" long, threaded end to threaded end. The whole stove is 14 1/2 inches by 8 inches by 3 inches. The box is very thin tin, and the manifold is iron.
    I do believe I am going to wing it and chop that spring off....... :D :D :D Amazingly, although not spring steel, it did not shear off while I was rewinding.
    Best,
    Randy
     
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    Matukat,
    To remove the springs from inside a generator, try using a heavy duty paper clip. open it up once and then put a 90 degree bend on the end, about 1/8 th inch long. screw it in as far as you can, and start pulling...
    I've used this trick several times, works good.
     
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    Thanks Steve, but we are talking way beyond paper clips here, even big ones. This tube was bent when I got the stove and clogged beyond belief. The tube coming out of the tank which goes out to a T with the joint the generator tube screws into is partially clogged. I have to figure out how to clear it also, and there seems to be a problem now getting the T off of the tank tube. We are talking ancient carbon deposits, LeBrea Tar PIt style. Dead Dinasaur hunks........
     
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    matukat - you have a PM - check your messages...
     
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    Here's some pics of what's done. Looking at BnSC's 3 burner, his is very well preserved! I have legs made for it, but didn't get pictures yet. Haven't tested the tank, and need to fabricate or find a grate. Thanks to someone's improvised latch....which wasn't needed, it's an "Amer can"...... :lol:

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    Gutter spikes I made legs from and .22 empty brass fits on about perfect for a finished foot.
    Below, the legs installed and in the "inside" position.

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    Now, locked in the "outside" position;
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    Standing on it's legs....with feetz :D

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    I'll edit the legs and hopefully a flame shot in later :D
    Thanks to all of you who offered your advice and expertise!
     
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    Hey, Matukat,

    That's a very nice looking stove, now that you've worked your magic on it, Lad!! Well done, and thanks for the photos! Your KampKook looks very much like my old 1924 Coleman model 9, of which I will post photos soon. But, it's neat how your fuel tank resides side-saddle, instead of front-mounted. Gives the stove a classy look, me thinks!! I look forward to seeing the legs you cobbled up for your's, too. Thanks for sharing, and again, well done!! Take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
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    Thank very much, now if she'll burn! Legs are just gutter spikes I bent to fit in a vise and hacked to length. This is the one with the straight leg, not the nice little curves... I am looking for little feet to put on them to make me happy.... :lol:

    Looking forward to seeing the Number 9. Is it similar to the 1 and 2 ? I looked those up on Terrance Marsh's site yesterday. Pretty stoves.
    All the best,
    Randy