Petrol stoves and the coffee test.

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  1. kerophile

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    Hi, Some might think I have been a bit hard on Petrol stoves recently, so just to show there are no hard feelings I decided to run a couple of my petrol stoves today:

    What's in the container?

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    It's a Svea 123 and we know it is a powerful stove:

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    But is also controllable and capable of lower power as well:


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    You need a controlled low power on the burner to make proper Turkish Coffee:


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    Here is the second petrol stove I used. It is the Russian "Primus Tourisky" an Optimus No.8 clone:

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    It too is controllable and capable of making good coffee:

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    Maybe petrol stoves are not so bad after all....If you don't have a paraffin stove handy!

    Best Regards,
    Kerophile
     
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    Very nice, petrophile! 8)
     
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    :lol: :lol: :lol:

    that globetrotter case is nice,i couldn't track one down but managed to get a twister kit unused including burner for ?6,I'm not sure if it's the same size but it fits my 123 fine,it;s graduated up to 750ml,but i can't make the strap work :roll: now all i need is a jet for the 123 and i'm sorted,anyone know where i can get one in uk using paypal?alternatively how hard is it to order parts from base camp? all the warnings about there phone line being always busy puts me off a bit,and i don't want to order on the net using my credit card
     
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    ROTFLMAO... :D ... Nice one Ed .. Got me right on the funny bone :lol:

    KEROphile ..Good to see you 'swing both ways ' :lol: :lol:
    Was hoping to meet you , again, at Newark .... Next year?
    Please pass through , kind regards to Doron & .. && ... && send us some pics :roll:
    We Like pics :roll: :roll: :roll:
    Have A gudun George , Thanks for the laugh Ed ..
    Bloody stoves ;)
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    Hi Ed and Nick,

    "O would some power the giftie gie us to see ourselves as others see us".

    Translates as:
    (O would some power the gift to give us to see ourselves as others see us.)

    Robert Burns, Poem "To a Louse" - verse 8

    "Petrofile swings both ways"

    Best Regards,
    George.
     
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    he's so right about temp control for Turkish, the best cuppas I've had were on my 210s and 00s, 123s, 8rs and 111bs.
     
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    Hi Hobo, you didn't say if you liked my Ibrik! I know you are an enthusiast of such devices.
    Best Regards,
    George.
     
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    hmmm...let's see, it's copper, make s ROCKIN coffee, oh yeah, maye. I like it. are they readily available where you are at? Haw much?
     
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    Hi Hobo, I live in a remote area..... Not many Ibrik users around here!

    This particular Ibrik has a copper body, with a fully tinned interior. The handle is brass.
    I bought it recently in a Charity shop in London for about US $3. It works really well and is beautifully balanced.
    Best Regards,
    George.
     
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    mine is copper w/ a brass handle, bout 1/2 litre and WAS tinn lined ;) but apparently my coffee was strong enough to strip the linning, Now I'M tin lined :lol: :lol: :lol:
    Now, It's copper, w/ a brass handle and a very nice / old patina inside.
     
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    Nice to see what the fuzz is about with these turkish thingies! I thought Ibriks were that kind of freeze dried tablets of espresso that you can get nowadays. Or possibly a portable music player of some sort.. :)

    Having the naked copper surface on the inside can't be good for you can it? Time to have
    it tinned again?

    I'm not sure how poisonous copper is and what dose you're likely to get, but take a look at what copper lettering on old gravestones does to the lichen around it...
     
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    Copper is not a health issue. the tinning is there to keep the copper from corroding.

    from Wkipeidia:

    Copper
    Classically in Western cooking, the best pots were made out of a thick layer of copper for good thermal conductivity and a thin layer of tin to prevent the copper from reacting with acidic foods. Copper pans provide the best conductivity, and therefore the most even heating. They tend, however, to be heavy, expensive, and to require occasional retinning. They are now available with stainless steel rather than tin linings which last much longer. They are best for such high-heat, fast-cooking techniques as saut?eing.

    If copper wsa a problem, copper would not be used for water pipe.
     
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    Copper is one of a group of metals that have an antibiotic effect. That's why it might suppress lichen.
    The effect extends to the alloys. A brass doornob will disinfect itself of most bacteria within a few hours. So, therefore, would a brass stove!
    I would expect no ill-effects from cooking with copper direct against food.
     
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    ...yes, I agree to everything regarding POSSIBLE use of pure brass or copper for pots, BUT have you ever tried to cook anything tomato (pasta-sauce, tomatosoup) in these?
    Yuk! Metallic aftertaste like you would not believe...
    Try it!
     
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    Lovely George
    I've always said petrol stoves are my favourite ;)

    I have the same 123 set up as you with a GT set of pans, though not so pretty.

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    Here's mine alongside a real stove.
    I don't use an ibrik very often, although I have several different sizes, I'd much prefer a good strong espresso.
     
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    Well, as I live and breathe, deviltry in Southhampton....is no place safe?
     
  17. Henry

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    You know me Ed. Love them petrol stoves ;)

    George made me do it :lol:
     
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    Brethren it just so happens that the ideal conditions for the production of the perfect cup of Turkish coffee exist in the very Centre of Britain.
    Now the secret is a nice steady simmer so as not to boil the coffee and a Hipolito 0 is ideal.

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    Also required is a 12oz ibrik, three heaped teaspoons of Billington's natural demerara cane sugar, six heaped teaspoons of Pumphrey's Turkish espresso which has been put through a pepper mill to really pulverise it, and 9oz cold water.
    The sugar and water go in and the coffee is gently spooned in and left for a minute to crust on the top.
    Fire up the Hipolito and put on the ibrik and watch it like a hawk.
    As it heats the foffee grounds will begin to foam

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    As the coffee foams near the top of the ibrik remove from the heat and gently stir the foam only with the tip of the teaspoon then return to the heat.

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    Repeat the remove from heat and stir process and return for a final foaming.

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    Finally remove from the heat as the foam reaches the top of the ibrik and gently spoon the foam into your cup. Then gently pour in the remainder of the coffee leaving behind the last cm. in the bottom of the ibrik. Remember never to stir the coffee - only ever stir the foam and let the magic inside the ibrik do its work.


    ENJOY.........................................................
     
  19. kerophile

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    Hi, this must be one of the longest photo-posts ever on CCS. It even rivals Magnus Museum Posts!

    I make it 25 frames. I wonder if I can run it as a slide show?

    I haven't got the odour module installed on my lap-top yet but I bet the actual smell was glorious.

    Lovely stove too!

    Best Regards,
    Kerophile
     
  20. Willonthewall

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    Well I tried to impart the foaming effect but had to crop the number of frames down LOL.
    The smell was rather nice but the taste was out of this world. I'm lucky that I can actually call in to Pumphrey's and sample before I buy ;) It's about a forty minute drive on a good day but well worth it to get the coffee fresh. I can remember when they used to be next to Balmbra's of "Blaydon Races" fame in the Cloth Market Newcastle and we used to call in for a coffee on a Saturday afternoon so even as a teenager I was hooked. One of my uncles was a merchant seaman and he showed me how to make Turkish coffee but he used brightly coloured candy sugar crystals instead of demerara.