hey Prime Us i was thinking of using the phosphoric acid as i have a ready supply,i will try it out on an old chisel or pair of rusty pliers first see what happens, as for toxic waste there won't be any, if i water the waste down with fresh tap water,i might need to add a bit of liquid silicon (a strong alkali) ,,then check the ph until it's back to around 7 i can water my garden with the "residue" as it will only contain phosphor and iron and silicon which are used as a plant fertilise in hydroponics,so i should end up with metal that has had the rust killed no baked on grease or crud will stand up to the acid,and nice big fat hydroponic tomato's as a by product, btw the phosphoric acid and liquid silicon i have are both pharmaceutical grade,for use in hydroponics, if you where European and ate Dutch tomato's you have already been eating the chemicals I'm talking about as the Dutch are big on hydroponics, as where you yanks, at one time,in fact didn't you lot start "modern hydroponics""during the war for feeding troops on remote islands where getting regular FRESH supplies proved difficult? hydro is used all over the world and deemed by most to be far superior to growing in soil,as there are no pests in the growth medium and you can give the plants exactly the right nutrients to ensure super fast healthy growth yes i do know what I'm doing with the chemicals just never tried them on stoves, but it WILL be ECO friendly phosphor,iron and silicon are basic requirements of healthy plant life
How do you liquify silicon? - a metalloid element with a melting point over 1400C. Somehow I don't think your plants are going to take too kindly to that, Bill... #-o
Silly me, that company also sells liquid oxygen you can buy in a plastic bottle and just pour out... The 'liquid silicon' is actually an 11% solution of potassium silicate; the 'liquid oxygen' is nothing more than hydrogen peroxide solution...
ooh David you know your stuff might you be an indoor gardener as well, keep it quiet though careless talk and all that 8)
Hey David, I once heard, on the kooky left-wing radio to which I listen, an interview with a guy who was selling a special, extra-healthy water that he said was "wetter" than regular water, and the credulous radio hostess just lapped it up. L8R Gary
the liquid oxygen i have loads of and the phosphoric acid i have is ph down, i thought it would be cool 2 combine 2 hobbies and multitask my chemicals
yup tiz true i have some,and it doe's work ,that is how detergent works penetrator http://www.dutchmaster.com.au/hv_product_ft.php as an after thought i used to use Paterson wetting agent when developing negatives it stops water marks on the film by promoting a more even drying of the films surface
Okay. But I'll bet that, the more of one's "crops" one smokes, the better the magic stuff in bottles from Holland seems to work. The guy on the radio wasn't selling water with surfactant for hydroponic weed, he was selling water for drinking that, he said, hydrated your cells better than regular water (which he wasn't selling) because it was "wetter".
he probably meant isotonic though if it was combined with a safe to drink wetting agent it would indeed rehydrate faster than normal water as for smoking ones crop, i use it for tomato's peppers and lettuce i was virtually self sufficient last year grow my own fresh produce in my conservatory,going to try radishes as well this year
Could I just make it absolutely clear to anyone following this thread, that I am positively NOT an 'indoor gardener' in any sense... Nor an 'uphill gardener' either, Henry, before you say it...
uphill gardener = chutney ferret or batty boy or fudge packer or one who's exit hole is also an entry, or a shirt lifter ........so many terms to choose from
Thanks for all of the info, for those nearby that want a stove, form an orderley queue bearing swapsies and get one to play with. Anyway decided I didn't have Ford blue, or even light ivory to match my Beetle cabriolet so metalic red seemed the best alternative. Looks not too bad.
There are OTHER locals as well Mr. S - well comparatively local anyway. I can get to Durham quite easily from here if i want to. We were there only a few weeks ago but it was closed