MSR DF vs. Optimus Nova

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  1. Qburt

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    From another topic on the MSR Dagonfly I posed the the Question...Which is the better stove: The MSR DF or the Primus multi-fuel. It seemed like the MSR won out! But it was suggested that I look into the optimus Nova which is in the same class as the other two. As far as as money goes, I think you get more accesories with the MSR therefore you get more, but as far as preformace, which is the better stove? Any problems with either? I don't want to be out on the trail and the pump break on me :x Thanks in advance. Aaron
     
  2. rik_uk3

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    Nova over the MSR anyday. Just keep the nipple going into the fuel bottle lightly greased.
     
  3. 111T

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    NOVA!!!!

    It's more compact when collapsed... It has more metal and less plastic, flip stop for venting the tank, you can clean the jet while lit...

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    I would go with the standard nova not the plus. I don't think the fuel line valve has "proven" itself yet.
     
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    and you can add the nova to a trangia
     
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    Yep i agree Nova (not +) all the way!
    Hey 111T that's a serious red cherry glow on your Nova 8) are you using kero or coleman?

    Take care
     
  6. hobowonkanobe

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    if a choice? Nova. the one standing diff? Nova is a multi fuel (one jey tech) where the DF can use kero, don't realy make it a multi-fuel. and at an REI or similar store, you're lookin at about the same price, roughly $130 to $140. I've had this topic pop up alot w/ non memeber enthusiests, and the 3rd and forth option I can make (pathetic there are so few!) were the same kinda deal from Brunton at $127 and the Opti Hiker at $180 (smae mono jet/multi fuel tech as the Nova.
     
  7. 111T

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    Coleman is my standard fuel while backpacking... for convienience only. Coleman in the picture. That photo is actually part of a sequence showing the flip stop feature...

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    Potatoes?
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  8. Qburt

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    Wow! no MSR lovers out there...Interesting. Well, thanks for the comments and thanks for the photos 111T! Great Show :D
     
  9. 111T

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    I don't know if i would go that far... I'm sure that many here who accept the more modern stoves* would tend to agree that the XGK and the Dragonfly are the best 2 stoves in the MSR lineup.

    But with the costs about par... I would/did pick the nova. I might think hard over the primus omni fuel... but not the dragonfly. I'd probably stick with the swedish models...
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    What?!!! How did they get there!?? ;)




    *There are some that say BAAAGH! unless it's solid brass...
     
  10. paul

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    What they said
     
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    Yes, the Swedish models do it for me every time - as can be seen with the Nova burner in my bomb-proof Nomad.

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    Are you bringing the Nomad to Newark, Trevor. I'd like to see it in the flesh.
     
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    Hi Paul

    I think I will be displaying petrol-only stoves, but yes, I will be cooking on my Nomad.
     
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    Is it still winter in Scandinavia? They seem to be wearing rather too many layers...
     
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    Good thing there's a lake right there... 8)
     
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    ed he didn't say coleman 550's :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
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    when it's a kero, yeah, more brass the merrier! But as to the new segrigated tank models, hate to say it, but if my choices were tween a DF and a Primus Vari/omnifuel stove? I'ld get the DF. One reason, I had a Varifuel, one temp! :shock: that and it took the better part of 3 mins to turn it off. NOT a favorable asset.rather alarming actualy.
    No, In order; Nova or hiker, Brunton multi fuel, MER Df, THEN a primus vari/omni fuel...maybe. NAAAH! I'l just go back to ebay for somethin else.
     
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    Hey, Qburt,

    Sorry to be late on this one, but we're on the road, heading to an out of State work gig, right now.

    Of all the stoves mentioned, I rate the Nova #1, with the MSR Dragonfly #2, and the Primus Omnifuel #3+. All three are good stoves, and you can't go wrong with any of them. However, with the Nova, you get a fuel bottle, too, which MSR does not supply. That's a definite plus in my book! And, I like the metal pumps on the Nova and Omnifuel, though the new MSR pump is way above most of it's predecessors, in terms of strength, and I hope, reliability. Hope that helps some.... take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
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    Alas this is no longer the case... the current nova ships with a windscreen which is a definite plus but no fuel bottle. (based on what i've seen on the web) My nova came with one... but I don't think the new green handled ones do. :cry: :cry: :cry:

    Oh well I'm set...
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    oh by the way... I noticed while on the optimus site... the 123r is once again pictured!!!!! 8) 8) 8)
     
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    Last year a local store was selling 750ml Karrimor fuel bottles for ?1.60, so I picked up a case of 24 :D Also picked up some Sigg half litre bottles, factory seconds (small dings to bottle) for 50p/$1 each. They are always useful as a backup 8)