Here's a question Id like to post and hear some answers on. I like to fettle on all kinds of things (in the South we use the word but it sounds more like fiddle). If I buy a 50 dollar stove (just an example, who really pays 50 bucks for a stove? Right?) from somewhere and decide to take it apart and get it working like new, polish the polished parts, rechrome anything, and paint it will I still be able to get my 50 dollars back out of it later if I need to make room for something else I fancied better? I have a lot of stuff, reloading, rod building, fishing, hunting, and toolks for making and fixing things, so I need room from time to time as my space is limited. Im sure there are exceptions to the rule but on an overall view will I be able to get my money back or is it ruined like in coins or something similar?
I have often paid $50 for a stove, as well as more and less. While there are varying views about fettling, cleaning, and polishing an oldie with a nice patina, in my view there is nothing in stoves similar to the situation with coins, say, or rare guns, or other expensive collectibles, where "restoration" often destroys much collectible value. These little items aren't of that nature. Not yet, anyway.
like Ed said--"not yet"--before i did and work i would want to know if the stove--or any item--was rare and what the going price was..i have one stove,a Borde,that i'm keeping "new in box" just to see what the prices will be like in a few years..everything else i assume is one of millions stamped out and i use and fix them as the notion hits me..but its like that 60 Chevy that i ran into the ground--gosh..i should have polished it every weekend and never taken it out in the rain :frown:
I think you have to do what you have to do -- enjoy doing it and not worry about the $50. Its a tank of gas.
As has been said many times on this forum, a stove is worth what someone is prepared to pay on a particular date. All of us who regularly watch ebay will know that a particular stove might go for megabucks one week, and two weeks later the same model and vintage and perhaps in better condition will go for a very reasonable price. Bottom line - I collect stoves for the interest, not as an investment. At some point in the future if I manage to turn a buck when I come to sell the collection off (as one member is doing at the moment) then so well and good. But I have no expectations of making capital gain on the process. With regards to whether stoves should be polished up or not, I'd say that's purely down to personal preference.
I dont expect to make any capital gain messing around with stoves. I like camping, and I like mechanical things also. Im usually good at making things look good (auto industry). I was just asking whether or not I could recoup any money I might spend on a stove if I were to sell it later or just have a bunch of nice looking worthless stoves. It costs me about 75 dollars to fill up my truck, but luckily gas prices are coming down. I had been looking for information about hydrogen generators. I read a post here about electrolysis to clean parts with. This same process and setup can make hydrogen. The generator people dont really want to tell all the tricks in making the generator, but the stove crowd will lol. Im going to make a generator for my truck and see how that works out. So I guess that stoves can save you money...
I made one yesterday. Of course Ill have to take someone else word that the gas coming out of it was really oxygen and hydrogen though.
I never look at things like collectable as an ownership issue. I see the more a type of lease hire thing. You buy what you want to collect for so much (£20) then you polish it clean it restore it, getting it to the condition that you want it to be in. If after say six months you sell it on to get something new for your collection you only get (£15) then you have lost (£5). Or have you if you think along the lines that the hire for six months has cost you (£5) and you have enjoyed the thing, it doesn’t seem a lot at all. Plus all the knowledge you’ve gained in pursuit of you hobby. It’s just my take on things. Si
Sorry, what I meant was you can't run your car/truck this way. You are probably generating O2 and H2 ok. Electrolysis works -- but try as you might, you will never violate the laws of thermodynamics (in this universe anyhow).
I dont understand why you couldnt run a car like this. I saw a demonstration of a small stove runnng off of it. Also several other things. I have never seen with my own eyes a car running on hydron with this system but I dont doubt it wouldnt work. I am not sure if a small setup would produce enough hydrogen to run a burner. Are there any of the gas burners that would be suitable for running on hydrogen?
Hi Si Generally, but not always, the well fettled and well cleaned stoves tend to sell for the high prices on ePrey.
If you did not believe in the thanksgiving turkey, you will be a hero in the land of turkeys! Anyway, I must agree, hydrogen fuel is very expensive to make. Same thing with using paper cup to reduce the polution from styrofoam. Making paper requires so much energy, it is not clear if less styrofoam means good for trees and conservation of energy. Perhaps what really is necessary is the spiritual growth of each human being, so that there will be less pollution from corporation and individuals, and everyone diligently recycles, and reduce the carbon emissions, and burn less fuel in the petroleum burners. What am I saying? An abomination! Long live the Classic Stoves, and may its flame burn bright and blue! Now I have morphed into a pedantic bore!
Hey, Dawg, Here's something that might really cheer you up. There IS no Easter Bunny!! But, that's only because Santa Claus ate him for Thanksgiving!!! 8) 8) Take care, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc
I suppose that this did off topic to a topic that was off to begin with. Anyway, I should have expressed myself a little more clearly as far as the hydrogen generation running in a vehicle would go. It was not my intention to solely and exclusively fuel an internal combustion engine entirely on hydrogen. I dont have the means or the motivation or money to try to do that. What I was pondering or pointing at was supplementing the gasoline engine with hydrogen generated from electrolysis. The alternator (power source) is always under power anyway, however there are adjustments made to it depending on the load that is introduced to it. I imagine that it would be no more a load than at the most a boat trailer with lighting or a set of off road lights. Anyway, I cleaned some stove parts with the electrolysis and I was absolutely amazed at how well they turned out. There was no rust left on it with a very large percent that was shiny metal (steel parts), something I thought wasnt even left on the part. As soon as it dries it needs to be oiled or painted or it will start to rust again. Sorry to get everyone in a muss with these stupid posts. Ill either get kicked off or fall into place I suppose.
