Primus 96

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  1. Strangely Brown

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    This has just arrived from ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fantastic-Pri...6209109388QQcategoryZ3630QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
    and after a good check over I thought I would try and light it,...........................it didn't work!
    Although I did get a little flame from the top of the burner.
    I think the problem is one of pressure as I couldn't feel that I was presurising the tank at all.
    What would you regulars replace first? My gut feeling is the leather cup (2261) but I would value your thoughts.
     
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    Good ol' huntnhound; I bought many stoves from him...
    Proably the pump leather. If it looks in halfway decent shape, soak it in oil or kero and try.
     
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    If those are pictures of the actual stove, it seems the pump rod's missing. Am I "seeing things" or is it? I dont' think a kero stove will self pressurize enough to function, will it?

    Or am I missing something here?

    Gerry
     
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    Strangely,

    As any of the others can attest, send it to me. I will make it whole, and cherish forever there after. Nice stove. Congrats.

    Rob
     
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    Gerry,

    It appears your right. I walked over to the 96 on the Buffet and there is definately something missing here.

    Iain

    Would any of you Spirits know a shortcut to a drawing of parts.
     
  6. Ian

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    The smaller ones certainly will. They may not get up to an all-out burn but definitely to a modest roar.
     
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    Gerry

    I suspect the pump rod is there !

    My 96 is the same; the pump rod screws into the end piece which then fits to the stove much more flush than on say 210's or 00's, and so just looks like it's incomplete.

    10:1 it's the leather cup.

    Cheers

    Keith
     
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    The pump rod is there, soak the leather in olive oil or replace it of course. Nice stove by the way.
     
  9. Lance

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    It's sad when i have to question my own sanity, i had to look at my stove twice before i realized what you guys were talking about. Of coarse the pump is there, didn't he say he suspected the leather was dried out. How would he know that without attempting to pump it up. jeeeezz i must be losing it to follow the crowd on this one.

    lance
     
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    Is this a bad time to mention my heart condition! :shock:
     
  11. Doc Mark

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    Morning, Strangely,

    Great find on your little 96! I have a few with the same kind of pump rod cap. They work a treat! I'd agree that you may need to soak your leather pump bucket in oil for a few days, then give it another shot. Also, you may want to check your fuel tank cap gasket. The last 96 I got had a gasket that looked brand new. But, it wouldn't hold pressure, and when I checked the gasket, I found it was as hard as a rock!! :shock: After breaking it into pieces, I replaced it with a fresh gasket, and voila, the 96 roared into life! I'll bet yours will, too, if you need a new gasket. Again, congrats, and best of luck on getting it back in working shape, which will happen quickly, me thinks!

    God Bless!

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  12. Strangely Brown

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    Houston, we have lift off! :D

    Had the little bugger roaring away in the garage just. It didn't last too long and I am convinced I need to replace all the bits that have been mentioned in the post above regarding another 96 that has not seen much service in recent times.

    I should get that Hiker III sometime next week that Jim Ford so desperately wanted me to post some pictures of! :roll:
     
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    You most likely have an air leak.Pump it up and dunk it in a bucket of water,follow the bubbles. ;)
     
  14. Ian

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    On Sunday evening I set up my Comet 7-cup with 1? pints of water (out of the tap say 12? - 15?C ) and coffee to suit, put it on my workaday 210, about 2/3 full and with a full spirit cup, screwd down the vent and lit the spirit. Thirteen minutes later I had a potful of eminently drinkable coffee with no further assistance to the stove from me.

    Last night I repeated the procedure except that as soon as the paraffin was vapourising and burning properly I pumped the stove to the level where it was producing a noise akin to a very loud 71-type farting noise over and above the normal roar. The coffee boiled over a little short of 5 minutes into the proceedings and put out the stove. The coffee was as good as the previous evening's brew.
     
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    I have not read all of the replies but the quickest way to test pressure is to empty the stove, tighten the reserve lid, pump some pressure into the tank and put it in a bucket of water. Any leaks show as air bubbles. There can be air bubbles that escape from the pump tube which do not indicate a leak so it is better to take the pump rod out to see if they continue if this happens. If the leak is from the pump tube it is either the pump valve or the pump valve washer. That version of the Primus 96 went out of production in 1962 so if the tank lid washer is original it would be better to replace it as it will have hardened and will not provide a good seal indefinitely.

    Regards Bryan
     
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    With dry pump cups I always give them a gentle rub with a wire brush to get the crud off and open up the pours of the leather, dunk it in a little kero and watch it fizz, then pop it in some oil for 1/2 an hour. Best left overnight I find to really let the oil soak in and soften it.
     
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    I'm almost too embarrassed to show my face after what must be a years plus absence, however it's never too late to report back .....................or is it? :roll:
    I tried it again today and this time it worked a treat, so well in fact I made a bacon sarnie in the garage with it.
    I am convinced my earlier problem with it was an untightened vapourising tube as everything else appears to be OK.
    Thanks again for all of your help on this, much appreiciated.

    I will try and look in more often. :oops:
     
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    It doesn't pay to be hasty Mick, welcome back :D
     
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    I hadn't looked at the dates and thought it was a new thread.

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