I am going to try to get a pump & cap , but i am wondering which is better? Does anyone know the reason for the 2 different styles, & do you have a preference? thanks, Brian.
Hi rosebute, I am no expert, but they both serve the same pupose. I believe that the midi pump (angled one) is a newer design and the straight (mini pump) is the older design. All I have is mini pumps, but the angle ones look like they may keep your hands farther away from the flame of the stove if you are pumping while working the stove. Maybe better leverage too. Just my two cents, but hopefully someone with more thorough knowledge of the two designs will jump in and give their opinion. Have a great weekend. dday
With the longer angles midi pump you can leave it fixed to the stove (depending on pan size) and it won't get hot from the burner as much as the smaller straight pump Either work, I always remove the pump anyway
Hey Yukon! I have both. The mini is a better size to fit for storage/transport inside the lid of a 99 or an 8R . The midi is a better design on an in line stove like a Svea 123 as the angle gets you away from the burning flame. The midi has a bit more volume per stroke and being of more modern manufacture you can still find new or near new a lot easier. Like everything else in the stove world once you have one you will want the other so buy which ever one comes cross your path first. It's also nice having extra screw caps. These little pumps make the 123/8R's and 99's into credible winter stoves. Good kit for the Yukon.
Thanks guys, i guess i will order a midi pump from Base Camp & try it out. I have an 8r, 123, & optimus 80 to try it out on in the cold. I sort of like the 8r the best, no loose parts & the most stable to cook on, but it is useless in really cold weather without a way to get more pressure.
if you like the 8r best then the pump is the way to go i got a pump a few weeks back and the 8r is a much better stove with the added pressure,prime it and your straight on full flame, by the time a t27 kettle boils the fuel tank is barely warm,the 123 runs a bit better but it doesn't seem to benefit as much a&h sell them and it's nearer and i expect cheaper for you here edit but it may make more difference to the 123 in cold weather i'm lucky it never gets that cold here
I used to use an 8R a lot for early morning brews whilst out with the dogs. Without a pump, removing the heat deflector and utilising the 'fireball prime' gets it going pretty sharpish. Whatever method you use, put the pot or kettle on as soon as, or before, you light the prime.
I expect either they used up old stickers, or somebody at Optimus was either having a laugh or maybe they couldn't read the labels as it's in English ?
Hi Ian that's what i always did until I got the pump but it takes a while to cool right down again and wrecks the paint work, so it's pump for me now.
I gave serious consideration to painting the tank with HT flat black, too, but it didn't really seem to need it.
Wee question for those who know such things - is it possible to use a pump with a 123R with the original brass windshield/pot stand? I can't see how this would be possible. If anyone has a piccy, that would be great! Thanks
Order one soon as Optimus no longer make them. Base-Camp have some (or did.."new (angled) type") as do A&H...("Old" straight type) once they run out you'll have to wait for Ebay! Cheers.
Parra, whats with the paintwork worry Spill a bit of meths in the case and light, you don't need the pump in the UK mate
I didn't buy either. I got a midi pump with an 8R I bought ages ago but had no cap with it. Then I bought that 199 a few weeks ago and it had a mini pump and a cap 8) so I thought I would try it out. I know a lot of people think they are a novelty and not really needed but I reckon after using one they are brilliant. It really turns the 8R and 99 into mini 111B's. I have also read that you should only pump 3 times and I don't agree. Maybe if you're running the stove to cook a meal that's true, but if all you want is a cuppa you can give it a few more pumps to get the best out of it, and before anyone says nay nay and thrice nay, if the stove is finished doing it's business before the tank gets hot the cap won't blow as the heat won't over pressurise the stove. I love my 8R/99 now, but I used to think they were too slow unless you set fire to them!
Like Ian said, just stick a pot on and they get up to speed, or spill that extra meths and get the bugger going straight off The pumps are a real bonus though with the 199 if you use paraffin
Yup, I tried the 199 on paraffin. What can I say? 8) Just got to make that case for it now, and it fits the Coleman cook set pretty well so happy days.
I was waiting for you to post this photo, as I remember a previous thread on the 2 pump types and the ensuing discussion as to which was which. Thanks. Like you dday, I'm no expert. Nor do I have either type of pump, but I did a bit of searching and found this. Item 2911, angled MINI pump. Can we say with certainty which is the Mini and which the Midi pump? Does it really matter, if they both work? Well, only in so far as the intention of CCS is to be a "resource for the stove collector & enthusiast", and I believe we should endeavour to keep our information as accurate as possible. p.s. if this comes across as a knuckle rapping I apologise, It's not my intention, and I'm not that well up on things stove, I know very little actually . Just trying to keep the information as accurate as possible. Cheers
Well spotted spudz! They look identical to me, apart from the sticker that is. I was wrong in thinking they mucked up at the factory or were having a laugh it seems, just for a laugh take the stickers off and try telling them apart . I have the "straight" mini pump and an "angled" midi pump. They are totally different in size.
