Hi, here are some photos of an interesting early Svea paraffin burner, the No.801: This roarer burner has a coil-based vaporiser and was typically fitted to early 20th. Century 2-pint Svea stoves. It is shown in the 1912 catalogue for the Sveaspilar range, so its manufacture must pre-date 1912: https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/11447 You get a nice optical illusion with the photo of the burner plate! Best Regards, Kerophile.
Great to see one of the more unusual designs. Have you fired it up? My dear Watson - I'd hazard a guess it was also available in 1912 - & even maybe for a while after unless it was not shown in a 1913 catalogue.
Hi Ross, I acquired the burner about five years ago fitted to an old Primus-brand stove. I did have it running but never took photos.... I then cleaned the burner up and am reluctant to get it dirty again. However, I am confident that it would work. Max Sievert was a very competent Manufacturer. Best Regards, Kerophile.
i've seen one of these burners in the last few weeks on ebay,i thought that's weird and that it didn't look right so left it well alone i can't remember what stove it was on though i really ought to spend more time in the ref gal
There was a burner of this type sans stove listed on Oz eBay within the last couple of months. Perhaps that's where you saw it, Bill? Sadly, I was not the high bidder though I did what I could. :frown: It's a very intriguing design. Thanks for the post, George. Cheers, Gary
Today, I fitted this Svea 801 roarer burner, which is now around 100-years old, to a slightly later, 1920s/30s Svea No.16 stove, photos of which can already be seen in the Reference Gallery. The Svea 801 burner is shown in the 1908 and 1915 Catalogues but not the 1930 one, where it has been replaced with a more conventional style roarer burner. Here are the photos I took of the stove/burner operating earlier today: This ancient Svea 801 burner is very powerful and reasonably controllable. It primed easily and had no difficulty passing the Kerophile "Tea Test". The flame pattern is reminiscent of that from a paraffin-powered Op.111 I think. It is obvious that Max Sievert, Svea, had paraffin coil burners well sorted out by the first few years of the Twentieth Century! A really impressive bit of early Industrial Technology! Best Regards, Kerophile.
Bravo!! Thanks for sharing this burn. I reckon Merlin was right to fashion those potlegs for your Primus #4 the way he did. Cheers, Gary
Hi Kerophile, Amazing a real treat and rare sight for sure, thanks so much . I suspect it'll do more than boil your kettle , wow Cheers Tom
Hi kerophile, Beautiful! I guess you just couldnt hold yourself back from using that burner...(ants in the pants then)! Thanks, what a treat!
hi Gary you could be right,i remember seeing it but the photo's weren't as clear as the ones Kero posted the flame plate was the bit that got me it looked like something of a svea 123 but with lumps in it now i can see why nice one George for firing it up for us all to see i realise this has made quite a bit of extra work for you having to clean it up again,thanks it's appreciated
A very nice burner indeed. Especialy for it's age. I am wondering though, how it would burn without the flame spreader. Is it there just to spread the flame nicely underneith the pan/pot/kettle or does it also help to hold the heat in the 2 tubes. I am wondering, becouse, from what I can tell, most coil burners are petrol burners. This could be my inexperience off-course... Just a thought.
Hi, I have made some measurements of the burner-plate of my Early Svea burner, for a CCS friend, and thought that it might be useful to record them here on the Site. The measurements should be studied with the photos shown at the start of this thread: The top plate is intricately shaped, having been fabricated from a single piece of brass sheet, approx.1.5 mm thick. The plate is deeply dished, but there are two shaped fairly high indentations which locate on the two tops of the vaporiser coils. The OD of the burner plate, including the projecting lugs is 55mm. The OD measurement of the plate itself is 39mm Max depth of the burner plate ( from top of coil indentations to base of dish ) is 12mm Depth of dish, excluding the coil indentations is approx 9mm The "turn-down" on each projecting lug is approx. 6mm Best Regards, Kerophile,
Good Morning, Kerophile, Outstanding photos of a rare and wonderful burner, George!! I know that angst you must have felt in firing it up, but also the satisfaction of having done so. I'll join the others in thanking you for your efforts, and ask, now that the deed was done, is that burner going to be cleaned up, and not used anymore? To my way of thinking, it's more than earned it's rest and respect, cannot be replaced, and should be retired and given a place of honor in your collection. But, that's just me. I'm sure others would love to just keep using and using it..... which would be their choice to make, IF it was theirs!! 8) Thanks, again, Kerophile, and congrats on having one of those nice, old, and historically important burners! Looks right at home on that SVEA stove, too! Take care, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc
Hello Spiritburner and all, Kerophile a very late congrats, what a great find that was! Thx for sharing it. Re this title "Svea 801 burner C.1912" and subsequent discussion being circa 1912- ?. I comment, 6 years late, to note that the No.801 is in the 1908 catalogue. https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/8742 Quick search finds latest catalog w/tube burner is 1916. The date range for 800/801 tube burners is "possibly" pre-1908 and post-1916? I've noted 1908 here and now w/such a range "circa 1912" still works, right? I dunno. Also in 1908 is a comment I found interesting re No.10 & 11 stoves featuring "the well known so called cross burner has found general favour in the market" (a basic 4-tube roarer). Is this a "timely comment" ? An indicator that 1908 are early examples of SVEA's roarer? BTW, way "back in '08" SVEA offers quite a variety of burners, including these under "BURNERS (GASIFIERS) and parts there of:" No.800 & 801 SVEA Burner (tube burner) No.802 Cross burner No.804 & 805 Silent SVEA burner, complete [*tube burner] [*804/805 I ALSO describe as "tube-" in light of it's successor, the No.815 (in 1934 catalog) is the, quite different, cross burner type silent] No.810 & 811 Cross burner thx omc
