I featured this Touring Turm in the fettling gallery, here ... Touring Turm refurb ... but thought I'd post details in the Reference Gallery too and try an experiment in 'Stereo Pairs'. Take a look at this to prepare yourself for viewing the Turm in 3D Viewing in 3D Ok, the stereo pair The stereo effect is visible on screen with those cameo-sized photos side-by-side, using that technique the web article describes. Some other, 2D, shots of the stove The case and burner tray have been stripped ready for paint. I'll be using a satin, heat-resistant stove black for the burner tray (lanevitt recommended one by Plasti-Kote) and I'm considering a gloss high-heat maroon colour for the steel case. Not much I can do about the worn user instruction panel though I might be able to restore the lettering on the nameplate however Some more details Priming and firing the stove, including that distinctive 'Predator-face' burner/grid pattern John
I haven't worked out how to do that on screen, Barra. I printed the 'left' and 'right' screen shots as hard copies and got the 3D effect of the larger images by holding them side-by-side though. That worked ok. I guess the right photo sofware could get a larger stereo pair image on screen, sure. John
Hi John, I have worked with stereo pairs in the past and had no problem seeing your Stove in wonderful 3-D. Unfortunately I can actually see three good 3-D images side by side. I have never had this problem before, and I haven't yet started drinking today. Should I visit the Optician? Best Regards, Kerophile.
i see three images the centre one being 3d, now put the stove on a turntable use two video clips and post a 3d stove pawno
No, George, all's well. I see the 3-D image flanked by the left and right shots in 2-D so it's some peculiarity of the spacing of the photos or how they were photographed. I took the pair of photos by setting up the shot with the camera on a tripod and taking the left-hand photo, then moving the tripod and camera 6cm to the right (approximate distance between the eyes). I'd set the camera-to-stove distance such that I got a fair amount of background in as well as the stove and cropped each shot down with the photo software to frame just the stove for the final images. With tighter framing in camera I'd have had to pan the camera on the tripod to keep the stove in frame for the second image and I avoided doing that because I wasn't sure it wouldn't mess up the stereo effect. Landscape subjects aren't so fussy as close-ups for stereo pair photography and greater separation of the two camera lens positions is possible. Glad it worked! John Is that what you do with your puppets, Sylvia? John
Hi John, What a relief...... As to technique, you have no excuse. What you need to do is to mount your two identical cameras , the correct distance apart and focused on the same point, on a base-plate. Then mount the base-plate on your tripod and you are good to go. You are setting the bar a lot higher for future contributors to the CCS Gallery! Best Regards, George.
Yeah I thought of using the two cameras, George, but rather than take time fettling a mounting bracket as you suggest just moved the tripod instead. I'll experiment more. No, not until I manage to create ... "... threads with a bit of jazzy, freeform, improvised kind of vibe" (gotnoeyebrows, 2010)
Sorry about the blurry... click the link Using your 2 un-optimised images, resize them to 480 px high. This makes them a nice size for viewing on most displays, then save them to a file. Next open a new word doc (or some such) and paste the L & R images in next to each other. You may have to use landscape in page setup. Then hit Select all in edit, copy, and paste into your image viewer (irfanview in my case) and save at optimised res . ready to post into thread. It worked for me but I had to use the thumbnails (hence the blurry) as light show wouldn't let me copy the full size images and they were too big for me to get them all in frame on a screenshot.
The thing I like about the CCS is you come across some really interesting topics,and not just about stoves. Cheers Tim
puppet s*x is advanced stuff, much easier with glove puppets - no strings to tangle up, that's why they didn't put s*x scenes in thunderbirds
You're welcome, Ben. I enjoyed seeing the results of your work on that Trangia Kap Arctic clone stove. Brilliant adaptation. Inevitable from your profession as a Fire Captain you'd be certain to ensure fire safety on your boat as elsewhere! John
I guess it was more to do with the fact that it was a childrens' TV programme, Sylvia. Thanks for the insight into puppetry though ... John
That's darned good of you Bob. I'll look forward to getting the details. Please don't think me ungrateful, but the 3-D effect doesn't really work with the bigger photos! On my screen at least, the distance between the same part of the image (end of the control handle for example) on each of your images exceeds the distance between the eyes (60mm or around two-and-a-half inches) by a fairly wide margin. That seems to destroy the stereo effect. I've practised on hard copy 'left' and 'right' images of different sizes now and different spacing between them and the optimum is images where there's a small margin separating them (3mm, or eigth-of-an-inch or so) and that distance I've quoted between the same point on each image. In other words, images larger than my original ones but a bit smaller (screen size) than those you've provided would be ideal. It may be that greater separation between the camera lens positions than the 60mm would give more flexibility in the viewing arrangements? Don't know, that's another variable I need to try! Thanks again, John
Hi John, This is such a great idea and the 3D effect will be fantastic with the smaller parts of a stove, with the larger image I can sit 3 feet away and enjoy the 3D effect, a trick when photographing distant scenes is to move the camera to the side even further (say 5 feet) to get the effect as 3 inches will not create the effect, for your images I right clicked on the image files (L & R) and saved them to disk, then made up a new blank image with a black background that was slightly more than twice the width of your two images and a little larger that the height, then copy the left image into memory and past it into the newly created blank image as a New Selection, then copy the right image into memory and paste it as a New Selection so that it just touches the right side of the left image, then Crop the newly created image, the program I use is a vintage version of Paint Shop Pro. All the best...... Bob
I've been experimenting with photo editing software to get the optimum size of images for viewing in 3-D ... Seems about right! John
I got around to painting the Touring Turm, using high-temp maroon ('Mojave Red' was the name on the can) and high-temp metalflake black for the burner tray Here's the Touring Turm alongside a Turm Sport I've also featured in the Stove Reference Gallery John
I have to say that I don't think the repaint does the Touring justice. The black and gold look really classy. But eye of the beholder and all that! Btw, your article on fettling the beast was awesome, and responsible for me hunting one of these beauties down!
