I have another MSR stove but need some help identifying the model. It looks like it might be a transitional design between the Model G and the Model GK. The jet from the Model G fits this stove and both this unknown model and the G have a metal rod in the fuel tube rather than the later models' cleaning cable. If this metal rod is not in the tube in either stove, the stove chuffs and sputters and has yellow flame. In the tube, it works just fine. Also, the fuel tube does not curl over as in later models, but rather angles over as can be seen in the photos. If it curled, then a cleaning cable would have worked just fine, but with the angled turns in the tubing there's probably no way to get a cable in and out. It does have the coil wrapped around the tube as in later models for more heat, so I'm suspecting with the right jet, this stove could possibly burn kerosene as the GK, and XGK can. Has the same pump clip as the GK. See the pics below for some detail. The unknown stove. Maybe a transitional design between the G and the GK. The unknown burner compared to the other burners with the model letters. Here is the metal rod that is in both the model G and the mystery stove. sam
One things for sure, it will be a tight squeeze if a BD cap is going on it. And problem maintaining the tube. Ron
Yeah, I had to do a heavy heat and quench to get air through. It took 7 heats and dunks in water to loosen it up, but I finally broke it loose. The design makes it prone to carbon build up. After doing a little more research, could this MSR actually be the Model MF? Any of you MSR guys out there? sam
Got to be a MF! It's a MF to clean the tube, it's a MF to put a BD cap on, it's a MF to find any info on---! Murph
Interesting. I am no expert on these Msr stove. I only have three. But I know doc has lots. There was a mf and df model. Not 100% sure what yours is. Is there a date on the aluminum block? And a shaker needle? Jeff
If you can get it preheated sufficiently, I reckon that will definitely burn kero.The coil vaporizer is much easier to preheat because more of its length is low down where the priming burn happens.
Sam, Whatever it is, thanks for showing it. I am gradually learning something about a line MSR stoves with which I have no experience.
Phonetically, it would be MurF... So, it's a MurF to clean the tube, it's a MurF to put a BD cap on, it's a MurF to find any info on!!! Thanks Murph, sam
Seems like it is very possible that this stove could vaporize kero with the tube going right over the flame. That design seems typical on the early multi fuel stoves. Doc_Mark, Hikin_Jim where are you??? Hey Duane, that rod does help date the stove. So, it would have to be an earlier MSR model. sam
Hi, Sam, Sorry not to reply sooner. I have been out with family and hiking and such over the last several days. Clearly that's an early model MSR stove in the Model 9/XGK line, and I do believe it's the MF, but I think we'll have to wait for Doc to make the final call. I have a G, but I don't have an MF, so although I'm about 90% sure, I'm not 100% sure. Sorry I can't be of much more help than that. HJ
It's quite all right HJ. We're closer than we've ever been before with your comment. I'm hoping that this is the MSR Model MF. It would be cool if we could get a definitive 'yes' on that because I have some cool pics of the stove in operation that I would like to post with a correct name for the title. I can wait for Doc to come by and get his comment on the subject. Thanks for your reply. sam
I did find some MF instructions in the Stove Reference Library. Unfortunately, the photos are none too clear. HJ
Doc should be able to make a positive ID. I know he has an MF because he showed it to me at CASG3. I wish I had taken a photo! HJ
Good Morning, Sam, Jim, and All, Sorry to be a bit late in replying to this thread. We were away for eleven days, driving to Arizona and Texas to visit relatives and celebrate Thanksgiving with them. Got two "Thanksgivings", and both were outstanding. We drove 2,650 miles, and had very limited internet access along the way. Sam, I do believe that your stove is an MSR MF model. I have what is called a #9 MF, with the paperwork, and parts, and it looks very similar to yours, with two differences. One is that, instead of the wrapped spring wire over the generator loop, mine has the earlier folds of metal. The second difference is that your generator appears to traverse directly across the middle of the burner top, whilst my MF has it's loop bent sideways a little bit. Otherwise, they look very similar to each other. My guess, and it's only that, is that yours is the later version of mine, as the early X-GK's had the same spring wire wrapped around their generators, just like your stove. I have been told, by another X-GK lover, that the folds of metal on my generator, and the spring wire, was added in an attempt to better vaporize the heavier fuels, and that makes sense to me. In any case, I have now dug out my own MF, and will do a bit of fettling later today, or tomorrow, to get it up and running. Have to rebuild it's yellow pump, too. But, when that's done, I will take photos, and post them here, so you can see how my #9 MF looks in comparison to yours. I can also send you a copy of the original instructions, Sam, if you would like to have them. I copied them from the original paperwork that came with my stove, dated July 1975. Let me know if you would like to have that. Congrats on getting your MSR stove, my Friend! Very nice condition, and a fine stove, indeed! I love the older MSR stoves the best, and their pumps, too!! 8) Take care, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc
Hey, Tim, Thanks for the nice comment, my Friend, but there are lots of others, here at CCS, that truly deserve it. As for me, the more I learn, the less I actually find that I know!! There is SO much more to learn, and that's what makes CCS such an outstanding resource for us Stovies! I very much appreciate all the outstanding contributions that our CCS Mates share here, and am more than happy to add any meager info that might come my way. As with others, some of my comments are, indeed, "guesses", created by what experiences I've had to date. Sometimes I'm right, sometimes I'm wrong. But, in the end, it's all about learning, and sharing, which is what we all love to do!! All hail CCS, repository of outstanding stove information, and more!! Take care, my Friend, and hope to see you on our way through, like last year! Best to the family, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc (still learning, and still loving it!)
Hey, HD, I've been on the same quest, for many years, and still have a few of those early MSR's left to find!! That's part of the fun of it!! Take care, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc
Doc, thanks for the ID. I was pretty sure it was an MF, but it's nice to have a second pair of eyes come along and verify that. Sam, major congratulations to you. You've got a nice piece of MSR history. Those early stoves are keepers. MSR was still doing a lot of tweaking back in those days as shown by the differences between your stove and Doc's -- both of which are the MF stove. MSR may only list a few models as having been in their XGK line over the years: 9 9A MF G GK XGK XGK II XGK EX but there were dozens of variations over time, particularly in the early years. I think your stove is a neat piece of the MSR "puzzle." HJ
