Primus 210 with 'cycle clip'. 'Y' 1934.

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  1. igh371

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    SMolson's superb recent 210 Compact outfit posting brought to mind again that there was another form of 'lightweight' stove travel adaptation: the cycle carrier. There are lots of '96's posted with cycle clip adaptions, but 210 versions seem less frequently encountered. Hence prompted to dig this one out of the garage:

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    Real heavy duty type of bar/frame clamp. Must have been a nice piece of skill involved getting it attached so neatly without overheating the adjacent stove seams! I particularly like the contrastingly delicate wing nut:

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    A heavy weight bit of kit for cycle touring, I wonder, were any of these slightly larger stoves ever also attached to motorcycles instead?

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    Stoves are fascinating. On CCS I'm equally thrilled w/how members include classic stoves in our various outdoor activities often w/breath taking views or unique viewpoints.
    For me boating, fishing, camping, scenic travel come to mind. Last but not least multiple types of cycling.
    SO I have a keen interest in your clip it's like none I've seen and sad to report I don't like seeing the stove modified to accommodate it.
    Search Terry Clip you will find this is quite a common topic here.
    Yours is nicely manufactured I'm thinking I have missed something and this is a standard option... I still don't like to see it.
    If that glob of brazing could be undone that clip could be utilized to make the best Terry Clip I've ever seen. Thank you for sharing.
    PS on my to do list eventually is to accomplish removing big brazing/solder globs of bad repairs from stove surfaces that should not have been marred by careless repairs.
     
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    I have never heard of a stove being attached to a motorcycle frame. I think there would probably have been problems because of tube diameters varying on different machines.

    The only in trick I can remember that was supposed to be good was punching a hole in your handlebar grip so you could thread a length of tube into the handlebar so you could siphon petrol off for a petrol stove. It seemed a really silly idea as there was a petrol tap under the tank and if you removed the tube from it you could drain petrol out of the tank without getting a mouthful of petrol!

    Regards Bryan
     
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    whilst I agree with your sentiments as far as bad repairs go I personally like to see adaptations of stoves to suit the specific use the owner wishes to put them to in a hobby, there are enough bog standard stoves about not to worry too much. I like the insight that the adaptations give of the history of a stove.
    cheers Nick
     
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    I suppose that you do realise that the legs are not Primus legs but it's still a very nice stove

    Regards Bryan
     
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    This is one of those"How far do you take restoration?" questions. Personally I like to see modifications carried out by owners as long as they are done sensitively. I'd agree there seems to be an excess of solder on the clip but I would leave the clip in place and tidy the job a little.
    Particularly in the car and motorcycle world, a lot of people want it to be perfect and so often you see a bike or car in better condition that it ever was, even on leaving the showroom. I like patina and signs of use on things, this is what gives them character. I have some nice old hammers which have shafts polished by years of sweat in the handgrip area and you can almost feel the years of use.
    I think I'd probably make a tin to carry the legs and burner etc. and fit another clip to that so they could both ride on the cross-bar.
    Nice one.
     
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    I'm not exactly a fan of the 210s, to me it's only the clip mod that adds enough interest to make me hang on to it! Very much in the frame of mind of 'nmp' and 'zincman' on this one.
     
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    The 210 is the ideal stove for a camper/backpacker.
    Not too heavy; holds enough fuel for 3 or 4 meals; looks great; is totally reliable.
    No wonder people made a bike clip for it! :D
     
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    Trevor, I almost agree with everything you say, except my view is that the Optimus 00 just edges it against the 210 on practicality and looks. But that's personal preference for you, not something I could back up scientifically!
     
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    Ha!!!

    I have a number of 00 stoves and also like them.
    But for some reason I do not like the rounded shape of the 00 compared to the sharp edged 210s.
    For me it is the difference between girly and manly - sorry, don't mean to be sexist!

    This is also made more strange to me because I love the 2-pint discus stoves with the similar rounded edges to the 00.
    Maybe it is because of the different proportions of the tank - or maybe I am just crazy. :D