@Gunner If you like those little self-pressured lightweight stoves - I can also recommend the Juwel 34 - or its larger sibling the Juwel 84. You can years of good service for affordable money.
Thank you, Harder - I'll bear those two in mind. I was thinking of getting another stove of some sort. My Optimus 80s are very compact and light, with quite a reasonable size tank, but it does take them a while to get going when I cook up one of my 'heaped plate' hash and rice dinners, so I normally break out the Burmos 2 pint or the Coleman Feather for them. For such a compact stove, the 123R puts out a lot of heat, which is very handy when cooking rice, past or potatoes, when you want to bring them to the boil before simmering (even though it is more touchy than the Feather for turning down to simmer) - so I'll keep my eyes open for one of the Juwel models you mentioned, and read up on what I can find on them on here. With best regards, Gunner
If you are thinking of augmenting your kit (and who here isn’t?) a 123 mated with a Sigg tourist is a amazing match-up!it makes the Svea perform like a big stove.
@Harder D. Soerensen I followed up your tip on the Juwel stoves, and found one point of interest, which could be very handy in very cold conditions, and which could be a lifesaver. Most other stoves - including the Colemans, 123 & R, and the Optimus 80s - have a round filler cap, with knurling round the edge. In contrast, the Juwel filler caps as shown on this thread by yourself and @Sternenlicht:- https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/playing-with-my-juwels.43690/ show the caps having a biggish square block on top of the cap, which is opened by the spanner end of the key. I sometimes have trouble unscrewing the knurled caps on my stoves (worn out thumb joints ), and I could well believe that even somebody with healthy hands might have trouble opening them in really cold conditions - and if they were heading towards hypothermia, they might not be able to open the filler cap at all. You could use the Juwel's spanner with the palm of your hand, even if your fingers were so cold and stiff they could hardly move. A very thoughtful touch on the part of the Juwel design team With best regards, Gunner
From what I've read, the Sigg cook sets are top notch, Ivan - but they don't seem to come up for sale on this side of the Pond very often, and the prices can be downright silly money. According to another old thread on CCS, a member bought a Sigg Tourist set for $75, which other people reckoned was a very good price - and that was over thirteen years ago! As most of this kit cost us as many pounds as you pay dollars in the US, I feel very doubtful if I could find one now for under £100 - whereas I do have some kit which could be pressed into service. I've just taken a tape measure to a couple of very closely nesting CampingGaz pots that I have. Both hold 30 fl.ozs., and they slide together as close as two parts of a telescope! Between them, they would hold a 123 or 123R, or the Lixada, with plenty of room for lighter, cloth, matches, pot gripper and spirit bottle - though not the APG (as mentioned on this thread) LIXADA gasoline stove But many thanks for the suggestion, and best regards, Gunner
Hi @Gunner My Juwel 34 is the most powerfull of all my small self-pressurized stoves and it simmers well. Its reliable and is often one of my go-to stoves, when for a short hike or similar - often paired with my Bernie Dawg Mini Cap. The Juwel 84 is a thad more powerfull with a larger tank/fount and should be good for around 90 min. runtime. Simmers well also. As you point out - the filler lid is easy handled with the Juwel Spanner/regulator when in cold weather - especially if its tightened hard inside a 20C room, and you then take it out in Sub-Zero temps. (On the Juwel 84 those are to separate tools). If that tool is lost - you can easily open it with a Multi-tool like Gerber or Leatherman. If you're on the lookout for either a 34 or a 84 I'll be happy to assist you, as I monitor some German/Austrian sites as well...
@Harder D. Soerensen - that would be very much appreciated, Harder, but can you give me a rough idea of how much a Juwel would cost, please? With thanks, Gunner
My guesstimate would be - which depends quite a bit on condition and version: Juwel 34 in brass - 70-90 Euros(+) (Quite rare at the moment) Juwel 34 in steel - 30-60 Euros Lots to be found - especially the younger ones without embossed lid/bottom. Juwel 84/older version: 50(+) Euros: Can be found now and then. The X-pot-rest can be a bit annoying. Juwel 84 Latest version: 80-100 Euros: Rarely show up and are quite fast sold when seen online. You can be lucky - I found an almost unused 34/steel for 25 Euros and a ditto 84 for 27 Euros.. and I've seen both way higher...
@Harder D. Soerensen I take your point, that these prices can vary widely, but all I wanted was a rough idea. Many thanks for this information; I will give it some careful thought over the next few days before making up my mind. With best regards, Gunner
