Borde/sigg combo?

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  1. Chef BC

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    I had a visit by the stove fairy today, sometimes I never know what she will drop on my front door step!
    I would like to hear any information, or background on this combination. The Borde stove perhaps could function on its own but the rest of this Sigg look alike was included. The idea is choice but which seems to be either a lost concept for gear packaging that never really took hold or it is the final incarnation of a failed home bench project using a Sigg clone? I see no indication of the manufacturer or Sigg stamped anywhere on these cook pots and they seem to be a lighter gauge than the authentic Sigg kit I possessed two weeks earlier. The kit aside from the Borde burner is this frying skillet two pots which the smaller nests inside the first, and the bottom and second level pot/stove supports. My apologies for only the single photo but my cell phone camera had a reaction to the solar flares. 8-[
    None the less ths seems to be a fun kit but I have my questions about it, any help is appreciated. Until I get better photos this will have to do.

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  2. hikin_jim

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    Interesting, Harold, but careful not to melt the pans!

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  3. Sparky

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    Harold, I saw that kit on eBay and was intrigued but not enough to pay that kind of money. Glad it went to a good home. The seller did advertise it as a Sigg set, didn't they? Might be room for some rebate thru Paypal? :-k Nice bomb, though.
     
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    perhaps this post and thread may help a little.

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  5. Chef BC

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    Jon, thank you that is precisely what I was looking for and curious about. The kit seems fun and at least as useful as any similar set, perhaps does not matter what brand cookset you place on top of it. As for being expensive :? :oops: yeah i took it in the shorts but this may be the last Borde I ever purchase. My photos are in work but the Borde fires up perfectly. Guess I'll be leaving posi feedback for the seller, he came through in all respects otherwise.
     
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    I've got the same setup and I believe mine is stamped Sigg (could be wrong there). The catalog scan is from a Gerry catalog in the early 1960's, your setup is at the bottom.

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    It is VERY EASY to melt out the windscreen on this set. I melted a bit of mine by having the stove running too hot and a not exactly in the center of the windscreen. Use this with caution. The stove is actually a bit overpowering for the size of the cookset.

    I have a second set which is missing the top windscreen, best guess is it melted away.
     
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    Howdy, ChefBC,

    You have a very nice, and fairly rare, Borde/Sigg setup, Sir, and even though you had to pay a bit for it, I think your pride of ownership will more than make up for the price!! Well done!! :clap: :clap: :thumbup: 8) :D Like you, I have paid "high cotton" for a few of my very rare and hard to find stoves, and I've only regretted it once. In truth, even then it was OK after I got over the hurt in my wallet!! :shock: :-({|= :lol: :lol:

    Alan's warning about melting the aluminum is very warranted here, and you would be wise to pay close attention to what he wrote!! I melted a good-sized hole in a Sigg pot once, just careless, so it's easier to do than you might suspect. Still, you did very well, Sir, and my hat is off to you!! Thanks for sharing your new find with us, and enjoy having it in your Stove Stable! Take care, and God Bless!

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    Here is a picture from a recent ebay auction. it shows a rectangular Borde support base and the cook set. Can't really make out the text, sorry.

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    Harold,
    Did you take a ferry to pick up this beautiful setup? Or did it ship?
    Sequim would have been worth the trip, you think?

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    Amazing! 50 years ago it cost $15 - now it runs at $400!
     
  11. DAVE GIBSON

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    well,talk about great minds in the same track :shock:
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    i just took this shot a minute ago of my Borde-71 kit combo.i had both out on my desk looking them over as part of the work-up for the canoe adventure this Spring.i'll have the 71 stove along of course but the Borde's windscreen is heavy soooo..how about??..well with the lid under the Borde to bring it up level it looks like it will work just fine. :thumbup:
     
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    I had visited Sequim last August, was almost convinced it would be a nice place to live but I got "that close to the ocean feeling" out of my system when I lived in Gleneden Beach, OR. =; The ferrys have their place here but are no pleasure trip, also one only has to take Hwy 16 to Silverdale, merge onto Hwy 3 and don't blink past Sequim!
    Dave is that a slot loading iMac G3 back there? ;) I think the Borde/71 windscreen would be a keen idea, you just have to figure out how to keep it from rolling on to its side. :-k
     
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    Howdy, Dave,

    Though your idea of using the 71's windscreen seems neat, I would worry, big time, about melting the top part, which looks rather thin, to me. You will see that ChefBC's kit does not have any circular divider, like Sigg kits have for the 123, etc., and I believe it is because the Borde and other stoves will melt that circle of aluminum! Could be wrong, but if it were me, I'd not take the chance, as those 71 kits are fairly rare, at least out here! Take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
    Doc
     
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    I would NOT use the borde in the primus windscreen, it will melt it in no time flat. The borde has an amazing amount of power for its size.
     
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    Just checked my set. Sigg is stamped into the frypan/lid on the sidewall of the frypan.
     
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    well the Borde/71 kit idea seem great at 1 AM when i was looking thru my favorite sites and saw the Borde/Sigg combo.i'll just have to make my own light weight screen based on the patterns i have seen on CCS
    Chef..yes that is a Mac G3.a give-away complete with a hockey puck style mouse.the OS is old so trying to do much on the web using the phone hook up in my den is sort of worthless.the old IBM Thinkpad i use is slow but works much better using Firefox.
    i use the G3 to view canoe trip photos stored on USB's and i play CD's on it.the one in the photo is from the Coda shop in Edinburgh.my daughter picked it up for me when she was there last summer.
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    I did not realiise that the sigg set came in two sizes.

    I got this small set with my little borde. It did not come with pots, will find some one day.

    I found the larger set a couple of days ago, it is beat up but still good.

    The small set fits inside the large set, although it may not if it had a lid.

    The only markings that say sigg are on the lid of the large set. It also has 1 1/2 on it. I guess that my be an indicator of size.

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    Theyellowdog, can you send me measurements of the two sets, I'd like to compare them to mine. I do not know which size I have at home.
     
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    bump Ye OLD thread
    above, credit @theyellowdog for this
    yellowdogtwo3.JPG two sizes of SIGG storm cookers.
    The "1 SIGG" and the " 1 1/2 SIGG"
    The one on the right has SIGG and "1 1/2" on it. Sooo glad he happened to mention that.
    I can tell you the smaller one on the left (when complete) has " 1 SIGG" on it.
    Per ads Here and here Closed size is 3 1/2 x 7".
    That is the size of mine, see " 1 SIGG" on pan lid. IMG_8814.JPG
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    All the pieces stamped SIGG except upper windscreen. There is leather strap not shown, oops.

    It's hard to make out on Hazet's page (above) but appears this (1 SIGG) might be offered with alcohol burner. That might be a better way to go, for such small light weight aluminum cooker (vs hot-hot Borde). Then again, one ad refers to this setup (w/Borde) as an Alpine Cooker... up in the Swiss Alps in snow one might prefer the hotter burner/boiler.
    For cooking in less extreme conditions the Borde might be a bit much?

    The pan lid (to brim) is 0.7L, it is 170 x 33mm.
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    The 2 pots (to brim): 0.9L 74 x 125mm and 1.0L 78 x 132.
    The top brim of the pots is unique. For this reason the 125 & 132 is the bottom diameter.


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    Mine arrived with this thin cork pad, a perfect fit inside pan, it may be original?
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    Here she is again, showing orig. leather strap.
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    It's been said, that looks odd (agree), almost looks incomplete. It is complete as shown
    BUT

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    Above see it with pot added outside. It is easy to find a lil aluminum pot or 2 that this lil SIGG will nest into.
    I may yet find 1 or 2 that are a perfect fit.
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    above re: All the pieces stamped SIGG except upper windscreen.
    Re text used in the "SIGG" name but for items related to classic camp stoves, for the most part, there are 2 versions: early & later text. Credit Hazet for noting this difference.
    Examples: earlier, the bottom is wider IMG_8833 (4).JPG -and- IMG_8834 (3).JPG later, is block letters.
    All items in this thread and all SIGG's early storm cookers such as these will have the earlier text.
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