Gas stoves, Propane, Butane etc

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  1. Scott B

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    Hi all

    First up Wishing everyone a safe and happy new year.

    As pressure stoves are becoming harder (and more expensive) to obtain I find myself wondering if there was room on the site for a dedicated page focusing on the often overlooked but extremely varied and often very beautiful bottle fed stoves of times past.

    I find it hard to resist purchasing out of the ordinary stoves often in "ordinary condition"
    And bringing them back to life.
    There are often as new examples to be found that have laid idle in the shed or barn for many years.

    Anywho
    All the best
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    Scott B
     
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    snwcmpr SotM Winner Subscriber

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    You can create a new website. :)

    I'll get my hat and coat on the way out....
     
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    @snwcmpr, on your way out, grab mine as well, mate!:thumbup:

    Oh, and don't forget my brolly, too! :lol:

    Murph
     
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    Haha :D/

    I am well aware that I may have opened the floodgates for a good dunking! (Or drowning)

    Hehe see where it goes from here

    Happy new year all :whistle:
    Scott B
     
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    Murph, my hands were full.
     
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    @Scott B Given the site is Classic Camp Stoves without specifying a restriction on the fuel type, I’ve listed my butane stoves in the Stove Reference Gallery under the country of origin, like the liquid-fuelled pressure stoves.

    For the rarer brands they inevitably get listed as Country - Other Brands as with these:-

    Wee-Dex

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    Selzam Camping-box

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    The Sirra butane stove entry could be posted under a listed manufacturer, Sirram.

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    Jet-Gaz outfit

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    Bleuet and clones

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    Lilor

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    RM Rambler

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    John
     
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    If you're not going to cook it in style, you might as well get a takeaway...:lol:

    When I first joined this site, gas stoves featured rarely and were mocked. Now they are a bit more common, and are mocked :lol:
     
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    Not so, one of mine was voted Stove of the Month.
     
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    Yes, hence the laughing face snipped out the above quote :lol: Although others have beaten me to mocking on this thread. I've saved many from the skip over the years, passing them on to those content with turning a knob and applying a match without falling asleep from boredom.

    My comments are tounge in cheek, I'm glad those are others who enjoy gassies. All part of outdoor recreational history, despite not being to everbody's tastes.
     
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    Mocking
    So glad you’re glad
     
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    I enjoy gassies, behind closed doors, no one watching. :)
     
  12. Big Si

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    TBH I love gassies too. I have about 50 different ones give or take, mainly because they are cheap ATM put over the past year the prices have risen due to the knock-on effect I suspect of the threat of power cuts and gas ristrictions.

    Si
     
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    761BF405-D326-4D16-AEB5-D20547A89E3C.jpeg Although I am not a Stovie - I’ll confess to have this gassie O:)
    (Which is quite well designed to use different types of Canisters
     
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    Hi all

    Welcome to 2023

    @presscall
    Great looking bunch of stoves there!
    I will have a further look in the gallery,
    Thanks for that advice.

    @Harder D. Soerensen
    Oooh
    Whats in the tin?

    Regards
    Scott B
     
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    Gassies can be rare and classic. You can find my 70 year old King Kamper in the Reference Gallery here.

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    Ben
     
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    Indeed, there are many gassie classics; here's a Camping Gaz on the Wonderland Trail in 1963-- 60 years ago:

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  17. Murph

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    @Scott B, now that we've all put the stick to you, in all fairness, big problem with gassies - is FUEL.

    Mort than a few of these old sods used one-off fuel cannisters or bottles, what isn't found empty is found with rust having the mortgage on the tanks, and rot-through haven done the foreclosure!

    Dry seals are another fly in the ointment, even if you CAN find fuel, the seals between tank/canister are drier than a week old scone, and crumble the same, so good bye to your fuel!

    There are adapters made, some are just bugger all DANGEROUS to use!!!

    I've one here to use a 1 pound propane bottle on a butane stove - with NO PRESSURE REGULATION!

    At average temps, butane is about 55 PSI/4.7 ATM/2850 torr in its container.

    Propane? 125 PSI/8.5 ATM/6450 torr!!!

    Butane stoves aren't made to run at those pressure levels, I've see flames do a 6mm standoff using propane on a butane stove! Right scary, to say the least!!!

    Murph
     
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    Hi @Murph

    Are you referring to the advice on the safari 1700 I posted? Re the POL fitting?

    I mentioned in the post that performance would be affected using a non companion type bottle and also raised the fact that bottles of equivalent pressure and fitting size are still available to purchase new.

    I certainly do not condone or recommend using the many fittings available from the local plumbing/gasfitting outlet to adapt a vintage stove to run on a fuel that is not fit for purpose,
    Same as petrol or shellite in a kerosene stove...bad idea, may burn fine initially but will eventually damage the stove/property or worse yourself or people around you.

    Thanks for the advice mate.
    I quite enjoyed "the stick" to be honest it was expected, And taken with a laugh and a smile,
    And as hoped unearthed a few gassie enthusiasts in the process 8]:whistle:

    Anywho
    Just wanted to clarify my intentions

    Another request of all of you CCS legends is....
    How do you balance the fettling of stoves vs the purchasing and testing of "new" stoves?

    The line up of stoves in need is getting longer,

    Regards
    Scott B
     
  19. Murph

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    @Scott B , no I was referring to my own balls-up using a propane bottle on a butane stove! Finally got the one here shut down, felt like one of the boys doing UXO work!

    Here, mains pressure to one's house is low, 1/3 PSI, so no worries to be had on connecting a gassie here in the US - no clue as to yours in the UK.

    Cheers, Murph
     
  20. Harder D. Soerensen

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    @Scott B
    This little gassie is designed to be able to use both the small pierceable canisters as well as those with a threaded valve.

    @presscall described it here with its minor sibling Lytham Tiddler

    You can detach the burner from the pierced Canister for transport as long as you leave the small brass regulator/interface on the Canister. CC9393CC-1ED5-476F-A23F-CC59ECD60DD1.jpeg 52550C28-462A-4365-A616-076284FBD77E.jpeg 5C4F55C4-3295-4F56-AF6B-AD6342BD7F89.jpeg B0745032-30C6-4C08-9142-743E6B1256C6.jpeg