Selfmade Flame rings

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  1. Matthias

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    Hi, unfortunately the small flame ring for the little stoves like Optimus 00 or Juwel 21 are no more available here in germany. :cry:

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    So i started to make some for my stoves where they are missing.

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    1. cutting strip of brass
    2. curving
    3. clamping
    4. welding, not brazing
    5. welded
    6. sanded
    7. glowing
    8. insert in the mould
    9. pressing with 30 tons
    10.pressing
    11.pressing
    12.done

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    Best regards,

    Mat
     
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    HI Mathias - well done! Is the mold made of thick brass (both parts?) and what is that tool you used to press them together? Drill press-type machine?
     
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    Hi Matthias, those look great, good job.

    Rick
     
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    The craftsmanship shown by members of this site continues to impress :thumbup:
     
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    I say, OUTSTANDING. I sure could use one of those for my 00. Any chance you could ship it to the States? Thanks for posting

    Beautiful work

    buzz
     
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    Excellent work, but lack of access to a 30-tonne press will hold up production here at Presscall Manor until I make room for one in the Old Stables ...

    John
     
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    Thanks to all,

    the mould is thick brass because it was available in this diameter. Normally i wanted to use steel.

    For pressing i used a hydraulic press like this:

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    and John.... this huge baby is not at home, its at my workplace. :)
     
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    Wow, now thats very ingenuitive. Congratulations, and a big thank you for sharing with the community. ;)
     
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    Good idea!

    Perhaps it's possible to find a pipe with the right diameter so you don't have to solder it.

    Thanks for sharing
     
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    I guessed it was something more beefy than an apple press, Matthias. Just my little joke.

    You said you'd welded and not brazed the joint in the brass strip.

    I suppose you mean that the filler rod you used was not silver solder but brass? 'Brazed' and not 'silbrazed'?

    In the UK that would be 'brazed and not 'hard soldered' and 'welding' would refer to ferrous metal fused joints. These terms certainly get confusing.

    Any reason why the 'welded' and not 'brazed' joint? Extra strength I suppose to sustain the next (pressing) part of the process?

    John
     
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    Isn't that what crushed the Terminator (Arnie) in the 1st movie? That thing can pound with the best of them (lol). Very impressive, thanks Matt.
     
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    Oh sorry, John you are right, i meant that i didnt silbrazed it with silver solder. :oops:
    That possibly would become liquid again in use with a roaring burner when the flame ring is glowing!
    What i wanted to say is that i added material with the same melting point as the brass strip.
     
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    Thanks Matthias. Just wondered if I was missing out on a technique or material I wasn't aware of.

    Again, my compliments on an excellent piece of work.

    John
     
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    Excellent work 8) well done 8) :thumbup: :clap: :clap: :clap: & a fine reprodduction flamering :D 8) :thumbup:

    Stu :D :thumbup:
     
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    great work,
    I wouldn't know how else they produced the originals?

    Bart
     
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    grmpf as I typed my previous post I totally forgot to ask my question.

    Did you insert it in the press hot?

    Bart
     
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    Hi Yonadav, wow, I did not think that this works. :thumbup:

    Hi Bart,
    no, i pressed after cooling down the ring. Then it should be a little softer than before.
     
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    A man after my own heart :thumbup:

    Good job 8)
     
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    Matthias,
    You are the man.
    Outstanding !!!
    Bravo for German ingenuity .

    Buzz