Hi Folks, I was wondering what the smallest production silent burner was/is? All I seem to stumble upon is the No5 size. Alec.
Thanks Sparky. But, there is one even smaller than the Minicap. The smallest production silent burner known to mankind is the BernieDawg PuppyDawg silent damper cap designed to be paired with the Enders "Baby" Benzin stove. Whether hand-built… Or manufactured… The PuppyDawg is smaller than the Minicap… Less than an inch in diameter. Smaller than a US quarter. Not selling product here, (I don't need to, thanks) just setting the record straight. Cheers, BD
That little cap makes the Enders look much more grunty than they are normally? Is it an illusion or has the grunt factor been upped?
By production I would of taken this as one of the mainstream makers. Should we be asking for caps with a production run of at least 500? I know we have a few people now making reproduction caps who have also designed a few of there own but still they are hobby industry rather than mass market. I know they are good caps but thats not what is being asked
When I first saw the caps that Berniedawg was producing, it looked like they were capable of more heat output and therefore would be more fuel efficient too. Certainly producing beautiful blue flame patterns and impressive enough for someone to copy. I wonder if slightly worn jets would still allow for a full blue burn with his caps instead of burning slightly rich with the usual standard flame diffusers. Cheers, John
The Dawgster produces his burners. They do not come into being by spontaneous combustion. However, they are combustion-related items.
Hi, Primus and some other manufacturers produced a small silent burner for Primus No.4 and 34 stoves until around the start of WW 2. This burner can also be fitted to Pr.210 and Op.00 stoves without any modifications being required. The Primus part numbers for this burner are; 2125 and 2126, differing only in whether brass or primus metal burner caps were fitted. https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/21383 Of course if your want even smaller, you can fit a "silent damper" to your No.96 stove (Primus part no 4005) Best Regards, Kerophile.
Here's another one that's pretty small that is made by Primus and burns liquid fuels (kerosene, white gas): Link: Primus Express Lander VF sam
Very interesting, thanks. It was older original equipment I was referring to, the likes of Primus/Optimus/Radius/etc rather than the conversion caps. Anythings possible with these damn things.... Alec
Greetings, All, After reading all this again, I must take issue with something that was posted by one of our members. Shed Man wrote: "Me too Alec! This site is meant to be about "Classic Camp Stoves"." So, what do we define as "Classic"? Must it be 100 years old? Only a brass kero stove? One of the things I love most about CCS, is seeing ALL stoves that members find, fix, and enjoy using!! If we say that no discussion of stoves can be made, unless the stove in question is a brass kero stove, then we might as well hang it up, and call it over. At least, that's my thought on it!! To do otherwise, is to toss the baby out with the bathwater, and that would be a true disservice to CCS, and legions of our good members!!! I am sure that there are at least a few members who believe that "if it's not brass, and kero-burning, then it's not a classic"!! I am NOT one of them, as much as I love my brass kero stoves!! Thanks for reading my thoughts on this, Gentlemen and Ladies, and God Bless!! Every Good Wish, Doc (an equal opportunity Stovie!! )
Some modern stoves may well be Classic within 25 years, but I think that is imprudent to say that a stove is "Classic" until it has a good proven track record. My view also applies to modern "add-ons". Anyway, that is my personal view. So, may your God bless you (If you believe in one). And which-ever God it is that you believe in, may he also look kindly upon this old Agnostic . Happy festivities, what-ever you are celebrating. Steve.
There are some modern classics I agree but I don't see some of the new current stoves folk are buying & posting in that category - yet. But I /we have been tolerant of their inclusion. Regardless of subsequent discussion the OP looks to be asking about burners not silent cap conversions. A cap is a cap - a burner is a burner. I think I may have some smaller than the 4 - will check later.
Howdy, Steve, Ross, and All, Thank you for educating me to your thoughts on this. I've always thought that CCS was a place where all stoves, and all Stovies, were welcome to share their love of the blue flame, regardless of whether it was a true classic (yet), or not. So, what is now considered the cut-off time before something is considered classic enough to make everyone happy, if I may ask? Is it 25 years? If so, that's all well and good, and I will refrain from posting about stove newer than 25 years old, of whatever other passage of time is needed before something is classic enough to be included here. Just so I am clear, is The Lounge still a place where you can post anything that tickles your fancy, be it stove, lamp, tent, water filter, canoe, firearm, music, or whatever? If not, then please redefine what is acceptable in The Lounge, as well. One last thought, and I'll use the MSR X-GK as an example: Some MSR stoves are 25 years old, and some are not. When it comes to stoves, are we now not supposed to post comments, photos, or reports on newer versions of the MSR X-GK? Since I was so mistaken on my original thoughts about CCS, I surely don't wish to make a mistake on this, too. Thanks for helping me clear up what is now a very foggy situation as to what's acceptable to CCS members, and what is not. Take care, and yes, God Bless, one and all. By the way, there is only one God, but some of call Him by different names, IMHO. And, for those that choose not to believe, that's most definitely their choice to make, and I support each and every one of them, 100%. Sweet Bride and I have made a different choice, and there is only ONE path for us. Every Good Wish, Ol' Confused and Perplexed Doc
How much more appropriate, then, for certain earlier posters to direct the thread in a direction that they believe it should go by demonstrating their knowledge, expertise and skill by posting answers to the OPs question - rather than stentoriously complaining with no substantive additions to the substance of the post. Perhaps something useful that directly addresses the OP rather than discourages posters one doesn't like or agree with. Like this: IaYxsWk9uKE[/media]]Link This: O6JsRioWdEs[/media]]Link2 This: jHRoCVSgLpo[/media]]Link3 Or, this: Link4 You are most welcome. Watch for more excellent videos about stoves at my YouTube channel. BernieDawg Cinema Thank you Doc Mark and Sparky for your wise words. Have a great day!
Doc - my views on what are a classic stove will differ from Steve's, yours & others. A stove doesn't even have to be a quality, proven product to qualify for me - eg Stesco. I struggle with gassies I admit but liquid fuel I personally split into classic & modern classic - eg MSR. I also don't find Opti 99's or 199's particularly classic. But that's just me. I'm not dictating what can & can't be posted. My opinions on these are just that - not site policy. No need to impose restrictions on yourself based on other members preferences (as if! ) As far as the Lounge goes - any subject goes as long as it doesn't get personally abusive. It's always surprised me that some folk post all or the majority their posts in here rather than on a forum specialising in their pet subjects but again we are a tolerant bunch - for the most part.
