Can anyone shed some light on this burner... I have searched the net until my fingers hurt but to no avail... not even a picture...
"Kerogas" seems to be a very well-distributed brand with a substantial history reflected in the many, many links I turned up in in less than five minutes after typing the word "Kerogas" into my Google search box. I'd suggest you try searching on that term and I believe you will find plenty of information about the Kerogas company and its stove/cooker offerings with little trouble or effort at all. The stove you show is a kerosene fueled stove that would have employed a gravity feed fuel system. A wick would have formed the center of the burner. These wicks are referenced all over in my Google searching. Give it a try. A glass fuel jar/reservoir would have been mounted to the side of yours in that cradle. Your jar is missing. Also, I suspect much of the middle and upper portions of your stove are missing, too. Your stove looks to be substantially incomplete. Sorry to be the bearer of that disappointing news. But, as this is a forum mostly dedicated to liquid-fueled stoves that have pressure-feed fuel systems, I am not sure how much CCS denizens will be able to assist you. Perhaps my saying that will motivate some gravity-feed lurkers to venture forth and give you some advice. Good luck on your searches. I'm sure you will be more successful with the term "Kerogas".
Good grief! I have been mistaken about this forum. I thought it was about "Classic Camp Stoves" for the collector and enthusiast. Not just about pressure stoves.
Dawg, wickies are always welcome here, although they sometimes feel like a put-upon minority! 8) But without searching myself, I recognised a gravity-fed wick kerosene stove. Seems that searching on "kerogas" would be the logical step!
Ahh! There's that criticism that comes so quickly again. And, again, as usual, without any help, knowledge or guidance whatsoever to the OP. Sorry. Many apologies. Mea culpa. Personally, I can't recall ever seeing one of these posted in a gallery anywhere here at CCS, but recognize that they are a huge class of stoves that does not seem represented or discussed at CCS and is not generally thought of as a "Camp Stove". Nor, did I say they were not welcome here (those are words shoved into my mouth by good old Eddie). I merely suggested that the members here would not be as well-informed about these as the more general fare. Obviously, I must be completely wrong, and the "cognoscenti" here are far more knowledgeable than I on these subjects. Perhaps, Clanclambo and Ed Witskill could show us some posts in the gallery where these gravity-fed household stoves are featured (If they can) rather than take unhelpful shots at the messenger who actually tried to help the OP. Just a thought.
I've often wondered about the predominance of pressure camp stoves here as well. There are a smattering of gravity fed alcohol stoves and the odd butane and propane stoves on this site, but not many. My guess is that people tend to collect things they grew up with. Most here grew up with pressure stoves. Wick stoves and gravity alcohol stoves were used before our time and the propane stoves are too new. I suppose our kids will be collecting those.
I'd never seen a wick stove in the gallery either, but then I never looked for one. Since we're on the subject I decided to do just that and found the Haller 3 wick stove under "Germany, Other." So, there's at least one.
I had a kero wick stove cross my path here https://classiccampstoves.com/posts/264627 my 2 cents the forum is "Classic Camp Stoves The online resource for the collector & enthusiast" welcoming and helpful I feel is accurate (not perfect). if we include lounge chat seems ANY neat old or any interesting stuff may inspire feedback of sorts (or not) and often helpful or sharing knowledge / experience. If it's an old stove I will read the post. I am guilty as charged in Bernie's comment cuz I looked once not familiar w/ that 1 but it's a very common burner setup, i read it and moved on. I'd question if it's collectible. I felt Bernie was helpful, thank him FOR my reference as it was the several posts that had me here for 2nd look and yeah we've discussed similar stoves. Re our site being for enthusiasts, not w/every post, sorry if there's not a lot of enthusiasm. I toss stuff out here that may go over like a fart in church, oh well. I'm OFTEN mistaken but our site's founder is sporting a trangia alcohol burner kit, no? I'm seeing all kinds of burners from my viewpoint enthusiasm varies.
there are a few wick stoves splattered through the various forums. Even I have a 2 burner wicky. A photo looking down into the burner might tell us the state of the burner but the lack of rust around the burner suggests little use. As already stated there should be a glass bottle in the stand on the side. This would be a smaller version of a standard gallon jar with a valve on the end so fuel flows into a tray up to the level of the neck then stops. The burner should just slip together and from the bottom there should be a wick in between 2 metal tubes with the centre tub closed at the top. There might be a wire coil between the top of the 2 tubes as well. There will also be a control that will either raise and lower the wick if a cotton wick or a simple tap controlling flow if a fibreglass wick. Wickies are very simple but too heavy for portable use and not too friendly if they get knocked over. Most pressure stoves quietly go out if knocked over.
Who is "good old Eddie"? Is that me? What am I missing here? As I have told a couple of people over the years (never on this site), don't call me Eddie. I am not following this. The site is of course, overwhelmingly pressure stoves. But, over the decades, there have been a great many discussions about wick keroburners. Why not? What calls for a rebuke to somebody who brings a kero wickie here? I frankly can't think of a single insult or injury ever offered by me here in 13 years that calls for this deprecatory tone.
I can't ID the model from the quick google search I did (just so I could concur with BD) but there does seem to be some info out there that doesn't require digit pain! Even some pics. BD is certainly right that you can find lots of info out there - especially with the suggestions he gave you on how to use google & info on the type of stove. Or maybe you found the same info we did but have a specific question you can't find the answer too? We've covered all sorts over the years - including stuff like this, stuff that isn't classic, stuff you wouldn't use in camp & stuff that isn't stoves. Some of it leaves me cold - some of it gets me excited! We are mostly dedicated to liquid-fuelled pressure stoves & we have not covered this sort of stove in any great depth but this stove is also generally welcome (it's in the 'leaves me cold' category but that's just me personally). I see humour in the 'put-upon minority' comment Ed. That's how I felt as a Trangia user once upon a time! If anyone is to blame - it's me.
my google search came up with lots of items with much the same burner but none with the style of this complete stove. If it wasn't for the integrated design of the trivet and legs I would have thought it a home made setup but obviously it was designed for a purpose. comparing sizes of typical glass jars on these things I would be guessing the trivet is 30cm in diameter and the whole stove 60 to 90 cm high. Its a big beast I wonder what it was for.
snafucc, as has been observed, your stove is missing vital parts. There are lots of examples of Kerogas stoves on the Internet, but I also could not find one to match yours, but I did not search for long. If you wish to restore the stove, you may be able to pick up parts - it seems that it was a popular make. I think this is the type of wick needed:
Maybe A J Lindemann & Hoverson has something to do with the stove. Might be worth searching Ads on Ebay US, to see if anything crops up.
I started this thread on my two wick version, but it never occured to me to put it in the reference gallery... https://classiccampstoves.com/posts/278701
should the forum have a separate page in the gallery for wick stoves. Once there is enough they can be split into countries like the pressure stoves. Of course doing this leaves meths stoves in a question of do they belong where they are now or under wickies. Weve always accepted the triangias and turins as equal on here why should kero wick stoves be treated differently.Just because they are a minority.
There's taking a thing too far..... Trangias and other spirit stoves have never had stepchild status here. They are classic camp stoves in every sense of the term. Remember, it is the legendary Spiritburner who rules here and founded this domain. Wickies have passing interest because they are keroburners, have lots of antique examples, and various stove-loving pyros don't mind having a look at one now and then at long intervals. You can cook on them, after all. Small ones are in wide third-world use. Other than that, they are pure wickie trash..... 8)
Yep. Ed is absolutely right. Oh well, atleast as I see it. If we should be formal, this is a site for old camp stoves, and thus a big focus should actually be on spiritburners rather than on more complex pressure stoves. Trangia is perhaps the ultimate camp stove? Atleast in many outdoor peoples mind, and it doesn't have a pump... Being fixed into only liquid camping pressure stoves would probably exclude most of the things posted in here since we got a lot of domestic stoves. Actually I wonder if those aren't even in majority. Should we reject them? No, I'd say it's a good thing we welcome them all, even wickies and/or gravity fueled, and try to help people out as good as we can. If a newcomer comes in here and ask questions, I think it's better to try to help them if you can. If not... well then just don't post. Anyway it's not a good idea to tell them that they can Google the stuff themself, is it? Isn't the purpose with this site to help people? And as a matter of fact people who Google their stove will end up exactly here pretty quick anyway, so perhaps they already have made that "homework" of trying the web first.
Holy smokes! Things sure can get crazy around here. Makes a feller wonder if maybe they shouldn't have legalized pot up there in Washington State. So! Just to be entirely clear since some folks seem to want to put words in my mouth and rewrite what I wrote. (And, first. PLEASE, just go read what I wrote, not what some want to make-up about it.) 1. I don't think there is a lot of information on wick stoves at CCS. 2. I don't care if there is a lot of information on wick stoves at CCS. 3. I don't feel that Ross or the mods or anyone else is doing a bad job because there isn't a lot of information on wick stoves at CCS. 4. It's fine with me if there isn't a lot of info on wick stoves at CCS, No one is a bad person because there isn't, and I don't care if there ever is a lot of information on wick stoves at CCS in the future. Whatever. 5. I advised the OP that there wasn't a lot of information on wick stoves at CCS and one or two guys get all bent and complain because they think I've rebuked someone? Huh? That's crazy talk. 6. I think the OP didn't expend a lot of effort to research the topic on the WWW because there's a lot of information out there. Ross seems to agree with me on that. I tried to help the guy. I helped him with some search terms. I gave him some information on the stove and how it worked. I mentioned that some folks here at CCS who were into that sort of stove may come forth, but so far that hasn't happened beyond Gneiss' on-topic reference to his post on one of the very few stoves of this class that is resident here at the site. So far, most of the posters responding to this thread have been focussed on beating me up for helping the guy out and have done absolutely nothing to add any information to the thread which could help him. People who come to the forums see that happen here, you know. Especially when mods do it. It says a lot to those who might be inclined to post in the future. And... anyone who can behave like an adult and wants me to call them something in particular better remember to use the "magic word". Everyone knows what it is, right? Spoiler please Post count doesn't impress this dawg at all. 8)
