Stripped burner jet seats

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  1. Murray

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    This is an idle idea, but to have good ideas you have to have lots of ideas (attrib. Linus Pauling)
    If the thread strips out on a jet seat, the 4.5 mm diameter left is the tapping size for M5x0.5. It seems to me a custom nipple with the M5x0.5 thread should be possible to make on a small lathe.
    It would side-step the issue of repair nipples and the unobtainable special tap required.
    What's wrong with this idea?

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    Hi @Murray Access to the jet seat through the maze of vaporiser tubes of the burner.
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    Certainly true for most roarers except for the type with a screwed plug in the middle, but not a problem for most silent burners, I'd have thought?
    Which begs the question - how were the taps sold by Primus meant to work with a roarer burner?

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    A thread insert will fix it once, then no custom jet needed next time.
     
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    Correction: Not self-tapping:

     
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    Extract from Primus Catalogue showing thread repair taps to cut taper threads.

     
  9. Murray

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    So - a very short tap, maybe meant to be used with the jet removal key?
     
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    Seems that way....I have difficulty screwing a standard nipple in on some days!
     
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    I’ve had to resort to silbrazing a nipple in place on really badly damaged burners that I wanted to keep and not replace.

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    Yes you can make them. But, as you mention, I have only been able to fit them into silent burners, and roarers with a screwed hole in the top.

    I find the best way is to make them in 'mirror image' pairs.

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    Start off with oversize brass rod to minimise bending moments when threading, and after threading mark where the parting cuts are to be made.

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    Then turn the heads to the finish diameter (5mm), and part off into individual blanks.
    File the flats on the heads so they fit in the jet removal tool.

    Drill a 1.5mm hole in the bottom of the jets (hand drill)

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    Use the same drill to countersink the top of the jet, and then carefully drill a 0.3mm hole for the jet

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    I have part of an old burner (below) with a nipple housing containing a good condition female thread, and I use that to test fit the new nipples before I try to fit them into the burners to be repaired.

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    You can make a custom tap from an old 5mm drill bit shank (or 5mm steel bar) with the same thread dimensions as the nipples, squaring the none threaded end to fit into a normal tap holder.

    If you cut the nipple thread with a 55 degree thread cutter rather than a 60 degree one, you get a slightly deeper depth to the thread, and you can taper the end slightly on the finished nipple for an easier fit.
     
  13. Murray

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    Thanks - that's really helpful. I'll give it a try.

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    Murray