I acquired this earlier this year in my mainland travels (Port Macquarie, NSW). I've been "isolating" in NW Tassie since my return, having acquired a COVID infection in Melbourne. Fettling has been my therapy. When I purchased it I saw the remnants of the transfer on the tank and immediately assumed it to be a Valor. The silent burner shows no markings on the outer cap (unfortunately missing the inner), but has "LION MADE IN ENGLAND" beneath. The only other markings I can find are: The pan support/trivet does have something pressed into it which I'm unable to decipher The fuel filler cap incorporating a cast pressure release screw marked "ENGLAND" is similar to other British-made stoves that I could find in the gallery, but different. My overall impression is that it is of relatively late manufacture, supported by having what appeared to be a HDPE NRV washer. ID help appreciated!
Does that red transfer on the front match the RM label? The filler cap is Thermidor, so look here: Standard Model "C" Silent Burner Tony
G'day Tony @Tony Press, Thank you for your response! I've traced out around the transfer and although it is red and similar in shape to the RM it is definitely different. It must have been put on in a hurry or it's "slipped"! RM screen grab. Looking through the Valor badges, it is also different. The raised/embossed lettering on the pan ring/trivet turned out to be "ENGLAND" The fuel filler cap is certainly similar to the Thermidor (as I'd alluded to in my original post), but doesn't include any safety pressure relief valve. Hopefully I'll be able to fit an inner cap and fire it up tomorrow.
Happy hunting! A few of the members from the UK are avid fans of these domestically produced stoves, so I expect you’ll get lots of help. PS… I’m slowly working through the Radius you spotted. Stove’s good; tins a mess but in good shape. Cheers Tony
Interesting! A shield shaped transfer, with some sort of rampant beastie? If the filler cap and pan ring are original, are we looking at a hitherto unknown badge-engineered variant of a Birmingham product?
I remember a British manufacturer made them at the Lion works . I'll come back when I've looked it up again. Dave
Charles Twigg & Co Lion Works ,Engine Lane, LYE ,WORCS. They made Buflam stoves but the decal is different Looking at my Buflam the upstand is identical and the pressure release screw is very similar but marked TWIGG on one side and ENGLAND on the other .There is also a small date code on the bottom similar to 0848 on yours , mine says 0249 The Trivet is impressed BUFLAM twice and ENGLAND once. The shape of the legs is identical. The pump knurling is different, yours reminds me of a monitor and the filler cap is different. So possibly a Twigg export model? I'll add a few photos when I've got time. Dave
I think the decal remains looks like a heraldic lion in upright position on a heraldic shield - indicating the brand may be Lion?
@Lennart F You may well be correct, but my “eye-of-faith” with all my winking and blinking can’t reproduce it!!! Was there a “LION” brand of stove? I couldn’t find any. With “LION” “MADE IN ENGLAND” and “ENGLAND” the only lettering apparent (I’m not planning on polishing it), do I post it under “LION” in the gallery? @Firestarter @Blackdog The filler cap and pan ring/trivet are consistent with the rest of the stove. Would it be correct to assume then (as you’ve already mentioned) that the stove was a badge-engineered lesser-model by Charles Twigg & Co Lion Works produced for the antipodean market? Does the “0648” indicate production date or batch number? I fitted an inner cap and fired it up this morning. Unsurprisingly it burns well! All input appreciated!
@igh371 Talk about rabbit hole this one took me down a rabbit Warren! It might help if someone could translate the Arabic inscription on the base.Charles Twigg and co of Perry Bar Birmingham are listed at the Lion works at the British industries fair 1953 . At the 1950 fair Aluminium industries are listed at that address.They made mirror finished aluminium ,electric kettles tin plated steel ,enamel ware and Lion brand super ware. The whole engine lane and Lion works seems to relate to the Stourbridge Lion one of the first ever steam locomotives (before Stephenson's Rocket). A quick search of Classic Pressure Lamps gave a passing reference to a British made Lion brand hurricane lamp. It has been assumed that the numbers on the base are a mmyy date code making yours June 1948. Information courtesy of gracesguide.co.uk . Hopefully a blow lamp or hurricane lamp with a decal will turn up (or another stove) and shed more light on this. Dave
@Firestarter Meanwhile RM are listed at Lion Works, Stanhope Street, Birmingham. They also manufactured stoves to be sold under different brand names. Full details here.
https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/thermidor-brochure.207/ @Blackdog Yes agreed but the stove looks more like a Twigg than a RM and there is no reference to any Lion brand from RM although there is an ( admittedly tenuous) link to Lion brand goods produced at the Twigg factory. I'm looking at the spares section of the SH&S brochure in the reference gallery which also covers RM and there are many different filler caps but no exact matches. I tried to upload a screenshot but it won't let me. Dave However it's a good point and I'll go back down the rabbit hole and see if I can find a link to RM.
Well I discovered O.B.A.A. The oil burning appliance association with all the members you would expect including AW Sanderson &Co(Lamps) Ltd main product wick lamps and lanterns main brand Lion. So not a link to Lion stove. In answer to @Blackdog the date code on the base the seam on the upstand about 1/4 " up The shape of the legs and the Made in England inscription on the burner. I do have a Buflam and a RM . Dave
