A Record stove from “Liedberg & Bäckgren Maskin och Verktygsaffär” in Stockholm. One can reflect on the fact that so many stoves of this period look as if they were "moulded in the same mould" as a Primus No 1. I suspect that Primus sort of set the standard for how a “proper”, high quality, stove should look, and most other producers copied that look. This certainly is the case of the “Record No 1”. The Record ”Patent” on the other hand appears to have been much more inspired by the Böhlmark’s stoves. Just compare the shape of the tank and the kink of the legs with the “Jupiter” for example. The only engravings on the tank are “Record” and “Patent”. There is not even the otherwise ubiquitous “Made in Sweden” to be found anywhere. The filler lid is a replacement. The engraving “Aktiebol. Optimus Stockholm” makes this a very early Optimus lid. Later flat lids had the text “Optimus Stockholm Made in Sweden”. The silent burner also appears to be an early replacement. At least if the outer hood (Optimus) is original to the burner. The burner is unmarked apart from the outer hood. The pre-heater bowl is different from the one in the 1897 ad. https://classiccampstoves.com/posts/112491 The pump lid is marked “Trässman & Petterson Patent” (and shows the telltale sign of a frequently used stove – the oval hole). I have not been able to trace these two gentlemen, but they are probably the source of the “Patent” engraved on the tank. Trässman & Petterson appears to have constructed a pump valve that differs from the one you usually finds (designed by F. W. Lindqvist). Looking down the pump tube you see a slotted head. This easily unscrews, but so far I have been unable to retrieve any other parts of the valve. I tend to be rather cautious when it comes to stoves this old. The pump valve head is shown below, and a view down the pump tube with the valve head removed. Stefan
nice--the extra shape to the tank and the bends to the legs make it stand out from other stoves,a selling point?
Hello Stefan, Your pictures show beautifully the setup of this 'different' pump valve; well done! I have seen a similar construction inside a pre-war Norma 25, an excellent alcohol burner made by Barthel in Germany. Do you have any additional information that links such a valve to T.& P.? Regards, Mike
Good Morning, Stefan, Your's is a wonderful and I think, quite rare old stove!! Lovely, indeed, and your photos are outsanding! Thanks, very much, for sharing this Old Timer with us. Take care, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc
Hi! Yes, possibly. The Böhlmark's stoves (that this one looks like) that I have seen appears to be of a very high quality. Böhlmark's also very often came up with original technical solutions, so why not look like them? No, unfortunately I don’t know anything more about them. I set my hope to the Sprirtburner community to come up with an answer. For what it’s worth, I myself was pondering upon a German connection. At least the name “Trässman” led me in that direction. Thanks Doc! It’s a great moment when one comes across an old and rare stove! It’s nice to think that they hopefully have been saved from the scrap heap. Stefan
Old thread, but I still take the liberty of posting. Record stoves - made by Company Trässman & Pettersson was the forerunner of Optimus. The founders of Optimus bought T & P in 1899 with the purpose to continue the operations. So it's not too far off that the stove in this thread has a tank lid marked Optimus. Probably the early Optimus stoves were just rebranded Record stoves. @stejar - Lucky you to have a Record stove
The whole company bought out by Petter Östberg and his partners in 1899 and then re-launched with the new brand name Optimus. Interesting to note too that Östberg/Optimus resumed using the 'Record' brand name for some of their stoves about 10 years later (see here and here).
