Consider these three stoves which will all have closed within 3 weeks of eack other. The first definitely looks a bit tatty but the 2nd and 3rd are in similar condition, and all have been lit. but look at the price differences! Stove No.1 Stove No.2 Stove No.3
I tracked the first stove intending to bid, then missed the auction end There is a european seller getting rid of new 111C's but they are a bit pricey and I'm put off by the problems they seem to have I'm after a particular stove just now, the type that are on German eBay all the time,,,,,,,, except for now when I bloody want one
That tatty no. 1 was won by me, however I'm still waiting for the seller to quote his P&P. No. 2 is probably a better deal. The price for no. 3 to me seems ridiculous. Lately I've seen prices like that for a few Sievert Campus' 3, but somehow that league is a bit different.
As many of you know, I also collect military rifles. The only one I regret letting pass went for over $2000.00 US. It was an unfired US Krag M1892. I told a friend about it and he bought it. I would have had to shoot it, thus lowering it's value by fully half. He, in turn pointed me to a nearly identical specimen in good usable condition which I got for less than $400.00 US and shoot frequently. We both "won" although I still see that beautiful Krag in my dreams. Someday I'll get to Oklahoma and hold it one more time. Some collectors (me) shouldn't get their booger hooks on really good specimens of either stoves or riflles. NIce ones yes, really good ones no. Gerry
If the prices for #1 and #2 are somewhat typical, then I would think that the message is to bid where they're thicker on the ground. The bidder for #3 is prone to getting what he wants, sometimes at great price. Iain
But are they? Some time ago 199s were regularly fetching over US$100. Are mine and Jur's stoves exceptions or are 199 prices gerally goin to be lower? Who knows - that's why we can't predict what a particular stove (apart from obvious rarities, perhaps) might realise.
Quite so, it just depends on how many people are after a given stove, and how much they want it. Having said that I'm sure that we all have stoves that " got in under the radar ", and I suppose also the odd one we paid too much for. I also suspect we remember the former, and try to forget the latter !
Wouldn't it also be important to note that the first two stoves were only available to Europe and the third was available worldwide (and ended up going to Japan). Also, I suspect that the european auctions may not be as widely searched as the USA ones. Rob
Good point, although experience has shown that sellers will post beyond their listed limits more often than not if you ask them nicely, and the first stove I posted had a bidder from Japan. Interested buyers soon discover that ebay exists outside their own countries. As for the third stove ending up in Japan; it still has a few days before the auction closes and, looking at the bidding list, I'd guess that its ultimate destination is about 50/50 between US & Japan.
It's all down to what the buyer want's to pay. That 22 the other day went for ?125. I don't have one but i certainly wouldn't pay that, it's never worth that much, is it
My first reaction was no, a 22 is not worth it, but of course it is to the eventual buyer. If I could get a 22 for ?30, I'd buy it, but no more than that because the stove just has no real appeal for me, that said, I would pay ?100 for a new Primus Omnifuel or a bit less for a Nova, all depends what tickles your fancy
When in commercial production stoves such as the 22 were always expensive to buy, but once their manufacture ceased and they went out of fashion you could pick them up for a relative pittance. Now they are becoming rarer and so are going back up in value, because of the quality of their manufacture ( in most cases ). The bulk of current gas stoves will not exhibit this behaviour; due to the quality of their manufacture, and lack of soul, they are destined for the recycling bin. Funny world isn't it
Have you ever used one Rik ? They are beautiful bits of kit to use . . . . . you never know you might change your mind ! Cheers
True keith, if I remember rightly, I saw a new Primus stove, a 96 maybe, in Black's showroom back in the early 70's and it was I think, ?40, it was certainly more than a weeks wages to buy. I paid ?78 for my Mountain Tent at the about the same time, that was the first thing I had on credit as my take home pay then was about ?30 a week (good money then for a teenager).
