I can do nought but agree with Keith. Once you have used a 22 for a few meals, the thought of 2 x 111s being a remotely comparable cooking experience would be as ridiculous to you as it already is to us.
Have you seen the US prices for the omnifuel... about $100... given the current exchange rate, that looks a bargain. Add shipping vat and duty it'll run out about the ?100 mark.
Yes, the USA is the best option, I'm looking at a Nova, works out at about ?52 but its a Brunton Optimus Nova, are they the same, any problems with spares?
RIk, I think Brunton is just the US or North American distributor for Optimus. I believe the stove is the same and is made by Optimus in Sweden. A 22 is a someday purchase for me. I'm hoping for that Doc Mark experience at an antique store; "Oh I see you have an old stove here, will you take $10 for it?"
Alan I think your right about Brunton, its what I thought. I'm the same as you, I'll pick up a 22 one day, no rush and at the right price
Morning, Alan, and All, You are on the right path, Grasshopper!! 8) I got one of my 22B's at a swap meet, and the other at a wilderness guide outfitter's, that was selling off some of it's older stoves. From that same place, I not only got the 22B, but also got a Phoebus 725, in it's original can and with spares, and an almost brand new Optimus 00!! All of these stoves were wonderful bargains, and I am so glad that I bought the lot! It all comes down to how much time you're willing to spend in the hunt. If you don't spend ANY time searching, changes are that you will not find very much. On the other hand, however, if you look often, and in many different types of places, you WILL be finding some outstanding stoves, most of which you will buy for small dollars!! 8) I don't spend near as much time "looking" as I used to, at least not right now, and I have found very little in the way of stoves, lately. However, as I am now "looking" for antique watches, it is interesting that I am "finding" much of what I have been seeking!!! Same for antique medical implements, when they are on the menu, or for anything else for which I have been actively searching!! Lesson to be learned here, Kids: Get out and look, often, and in lots of different types of places, and you WILL find what you want! Take care, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc Mark
Hi, Jur and Ian, Congratulations, to you both, for obtaining your 199's! Very nice little stoves, and well worth owning and using. I think you both did very well, and that you will end up really liking your 199 stoves, just as I do my own pair of them. Take care, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc Mark
Doc, for antique medical implements don't you just head to a bait shop? In this area leaches are available in any town.
Talking of medical stuff, I rescued a very tall anglepoise lamp from a skip at a local hospital, it was tagged "condmened". I took the lamp home and started to strip the paint and found that it is mostly brass in construction, and made by Herbert Terry & Sons. Fully extended it reaches to about 5' and I've rewired it and am using it now by the side of my computer. I'll post a picture when I finish restoring it (I've only had it 2 years, give me a chance, but I have re-wired it)
Not necessarily, it's a matter of perspective. I can easily afford to spend a couple hundred dollars for a stove or lantern that piques my fancy and never give it a second thought. Bill Gates, if he wished, could spend a couple billion dollars and not give it any more thought. Just a matter of proportion. Gerry
Hi Ross I was thinking of the price just before it stopped being made. The 111 in its various guises was being sold for about ?160 recently. Paying ?125 for a good second hand 22 seems quite cheap in comparison.
My 22 has a sticky label on the end of the case bearing the pric, ?10 / 10 / 0 (that's ten guineas for those of you who can't handle ?sd.) If its genuine it would put it at that price before 1971.
Hi Ian I seem to remember prices in the region of ?30 or ?40 for the humble 96 in the mid 1970s. When did they stop making the 22?
Guys, I have to put my hand up to this! If you have seen the Trade page, I purchased a 22B in error for my Scout Troop. I was looking for a 22 and the vendor implied that was what was being sold! I need the 22 for a Scout Camp in Switzerland in August and we won't let them near petrol, so you are all correct - limited time, limited market, limited opportunity to look elsewhere. Fortunately I have the 22B to dispose of, so hopefully, i will get some of this back. Either way, as many pointed out a 22 is the way to cook - especially if you are cooking for 30! Now, if you know someone that desperatly wants a 22B!! Tim
Hi Tim Nice to see your Scouts being shown how to use classic stoves - just go easy on that left burner, because when it's gone, it's gone ! Are you going to be at Interlaken ? Went to Switzerland in 1990 (?) and there was a huge Scout Jamboree taking place - we were up the valley at Wengen, wonderful place, must go back ! Have a good time.
Tim's post is interesting; I recall he touched on this a bit in his earlier post about the 22B. It's interesting, because it's all in what you're used to. As has been often remarked here over the years, petrol in the form of Coleman fuel was the camping fuel here for generations in the Coleman double-burners, and still is for those who eschew propane. Kerosene to this day is not a regular camping fuel in the States. Some old-time hikers like myself use it, as do we classicists, but otherwise you never see it. Same is pretty much true with pressure lanterns as well. We certainly used petrol stoves as Scouts, so did my boys, and my grandkids are getting introduced to the Coleman suitcases. I've personally always thought, and I'm sure more than once said here, that the use of kerosene in Europe and the UK must be related to the widespread domestic use of liquid fuel stoves and lighting, which passed from the scene here in a very early era. For constant, everyday indoor use, kero is the only liquid fuel, because in that scenario spills are bound to happen sometime and fire in the house is a disaster. But petrol is a perfectly safe camping fuel outside. But it's a losing proposition in the modern world to even try to avoid the social trend of eliminating all possible risk. On the other hand, I can see Scouts setting fire to the stuff on purpose! To our active Yank Scout leaders; what are you using?
