Hey......In a fleamarked i picked up this one,Its a dry spiritcontainer made in Norway by Benny new chemical factory Oslo.Under the scull its written poison.It has a warning to :It is wery toxic so you must not consume the other says it can be used directly as a spiritburner and shut down with the lid :o :o Any Norwegians who know its age Thank s Vw-iking
I'm afraid I will not be to any help but ... I have two of those boxes my self. Never opened. Have no clue of vintage tho 8) Remember that my father had a box similar to this back in the sixties. Labeled "tørrsprit" ("dry meths"). He used the stuff to preheat his Høvik verk no. 41. Remember that I was fascinated by the image of the scull and the word "GIFT" (poison).
Don't know. In fact the Norwegian word "gift" has at least three rather different meanings: 1) To give or gift. Clearly related to the English gift. Mostly used in combined words: "Medgift" = dowry. 2) Poison 3) Married. Any connection between #2 and #3? Hope not 8)
One of the interesting things about the Germanic languages is their characteristic of forming compound nouns, as the example of medgift. For some reason no doubt well-known to linguists, English, notwithstanding its status as a Germanic language, strongly resists this characteristic, and the ease with which German and North Germanic languages do this is striking to the English speaker. While many will cite Latin as a constituant of English, the direct contribution of Latin is rather small, except in the case of placenames; Britain is chock full of Roman-derived placenames, as the innumerable -casters and -chesters attest, for one example. The real "Latin" component of English, which is vast, is of course Norman French. The persistence of placenames is fascinating. Norse placenames aboud in the North of England, my own name being derived from one. Endlessly fascinating, language, isn't it?
You are right. In Norwegian we have lots of compound nouns. Example: "medgift" - "med"=with, "gift"=gift gives "med-gift"="with-gift", a gift you get with when you leave mum and dad and get married. Could continue endlessly with other examples. But Acetal, the original topic of this thread Have not gained more knowledge ...
The tin is very similar to a tinned fuel very common in the US, Sterno. It is used mainly for chafing dishes and fondue pots, and sometimes for camping. Sterno stoves are cheap, common, and everywhere. It is not a really good camping fuel, but will get one by in a pinch. My dad told me that during the depression, poverty stricken alcoholics would strain Sterno through bread, supposedly to remove the denaturents and gelling compound so that it could then be drunk. Several old alcoholics in town went blind and one died from drinking the product of this procedure, called "Squeeze" as they would soak the bread with Sterno, then put the mess in a more or less clean rag and wring it to squeeze the alcohol out. I have at least six Sterno stoves, two from before W W II. When I was a sprog first starting in Scouts I used a buddy burner, made of a tuna can fueled with parafin canning wax in an old Sterno stove I got for a nickel at the old St. Vincent De Paul thrift store on Lake Union. I still have that old stove. My buddy burners heated a lot of food for me before I could afford a real camping stove. At that time we cooked over a fire, holding the buddy burner in reserve. We also used war surplus canned fuel that was packed in "C" rations. It was packed in small steel tins and was quite heavy. Its saving grace was it cost a nickel for three cans. Heat tabs, hexamine tablets in paper tubes, were six tubes for a nickel but if burned inside a pup tent gave one a splitting headache. I normally used the Army surplus canned heat and heat tabs for fire starters in poor weather. I have a little three winged US Marine Corps issue heat tab stove around somewhere. It burns one tab at a time to heat water (slowly) in a canteen cup. My insane uncle, a W W II veteran of the war in the Pacific said they liked 'em because they burned with very little light or scent so they could have something hot to drink without letting the ememy know where they were. It's one of his stoves I have. Gerry
I have one of theose cans too. The warning may brobably be based on some denaturating additive. It contains some waxy alcohol, and even my father has told me about people using this on the bread to get "drunk" Havent seen solid alcohol here since I served in 82-83. Its better than Esbit, and you may cook some youselves with lye, meths and stearine. (A little risky operation) Link or http://zenstoves.net/SolidFuelBurner.htm#SolidAlcohol My father re-used theese emty boxes many times. Filled them up with cotton, and soaked it with denaturated alcohol. When you have tried this you probably want to spend time on making a pepsi can stove. (If you dont do it just for fun. A pepsi can stove with same highth as Trangia burner has equal output as the Trangia.) dsk PS re language. Would you trust a a man saying: Hi I am Gunnar Lier? Quite common names here. DS
I am no less likely to trust a man with the name of Gunnar Lier than i am to trust a man with any of the other names found here at CCS. What i would do and have done is watch him to see what kind of person he is. Prince or pauper, his actions and treatment of others is how i judge a person not his name. I have heard and truely believe, if you want to know what kind of person someone is, see how they treat a dog. and see how a dog treats them. It has never failed me, when a dog barks a someone without seeming to have a reason, that person is un trustworthy. lance
My uncle was a Grand High Muckety-Muck in the local Boy Scouts and we always had lots of 'C' rations around. We used the heat tabs to kill gophers... Light a couple, and drop into the gopher hole and cover with a shingle. Presto- no more gopher !!! Toxic as H*ll
It takes time, but i have found out this Acetal product is probably equal to the no anymore legal poison: Metaldehyd This poison is an effective snail killer. (For those who cant run fast enough to catch them?) dsk
Sounds right -- From Wiki "Other uses Metaldehyde is also used as a camping fuel. It may be purchased in a tablet form to be used in small stoves, and for pre-heating of Primus type stoves It is sold under the trade name of "META" by Lonza Group of Switzerland. Metaldehyde has been used in cloud seeding experiments, such as a project called “Experimental Seeding Tests", sponsored by the National Science Foundation at the University of Utah. The experiment was conducted during 1981-1982 and its stated purpose was to compare metaldehyde and silver iodide through airborne seeding tests in supercooled stratus clouds" How would you have liked to been out in that rain?
Metaldehyde is still sold as slug and snail bait in the UK. It is the green rather than the blue slug pellets. I am a vet and I treat three or four dogs a year with metaldehyde poisoning. About half of them survive the experience. I would suggest taking extreme care if you decide to cook food on a stove that uses metaldehyde.
