Advice: Best US one-man vintage Army stove?

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  1. cottage hill bill

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    @ArchMc,

    For WWI I would suspect Primus type brassies. Haven't a clue for WWII. There are several articles floating around about equipment and even bodies being discovered recently in the Alps. As the snow is melting at higher elevations a lot of the WWI Austrian and Italian positions are being exposed and rediscovered. The fighting in the Italian Alps in WWI was a truly nasty piece of business.

    I haven't ever seen a WWII Italian stove, but I haven't really looked as my militaria collecting has been limited to British and US. It might be worth searching WWII reenactment groups. I'm sure someone out there is doing an Italian impression.
     
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    hey hey

    It just so happens @orsoorso is checking in from Italy today.
    hello orsoorso !,
    this is a question here:
    "I am particularly interested in what stoves the Alpini (Italian mountain divisions) troops used in both world wars. If anybody knows, I would like to see it here, or in its own post.
    ....Arch "

    if scroll up a little way you see ArchMc asks this question after I posted WW1 Italian Mountain soldiers.
    thx omc
    PS my hunch is storm cookers. Present in Swiss and French Alps, one cooker even named Mont Blanc. just a hunch. peace out
     
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    really sorry, no idea. it doesn't seams to be data about "personal" Alpini stoves. Maybe Alpini, almost all of them were (and are, the corp still exist) people from mountain regions, and were used to cook on woodstoves or on small wood fire. Less technology, more inventive (best Italian resource).
    If I get any further information I'll post.
     
  4. gieorgijewski

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    possible thats system group stove
    stufa.jpg
    in austrian possesion
    legiony.jpg
    @orsoorso
     
  5. gieorgijewski

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    Austrian folded
    aus1.jpg aus2.jpg
     
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    below "cucina"(stove/cooker) quote mess (?)
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  7. OMC

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    All right Gieorgi,
    Your web search results (many anew stove on CCS) never cease to amaze !!
    Of course this is artist's rendering, and no skies but is mountainous ...
    there you go @ArchMc , something to consider.
    Alpini March 23, 1923, is that just simply a 1 man mess kit (snuskburken type, some are cookers also)? and again artist rendering of mess kit, creative license?

    Re: Austrian version of WW1 base field Kitchen supporting troops (US / Brit also seen here).
    These WW1 examples are not cookers used by ski patrol at high elevation on rugged slope I was musing about but
    base kitchen w/runners delivering grub in lg pots was tactic in-use, not necessarily ruled out for some mountain patrols (more such drift: google WW1 RASC Dixie pot).
    thx omc
     
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    That's a great picture; thanks Gieorgi!

    Question is, did they change to a pressure stove by WW2, like many of the world's mountain troops did?

    There's an Alpini museum in Savignone, Italy, but when i looked at their web site a few years ago, I wasn't able to find anything about stoves. Sites change, and I should search again. Looks like a great place to visit.

    ....Arch
     
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  10. Harder D. Soerensen

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    While I am still looking a bit for these Coleman M1942/M1950/520 stoves - It made me wonder: Which of the small Coleman stoves running on Coleman Fuel is actually the smallest in terms of physical size and weight?
    (The Peak-1 looks quite small, and seems preferred by some armies elite forces?)
     
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    How you doing Harder? My guess is the 550B as the smallest and lightest Coleman. Brad
     
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    Hi @BradB
    I could be worse :content: - Thanks for asking. I can see I mixed the product Line “Peak” with the model no. 550B.
    That is a tiny Coleman. As I can read it still deliveres quite well both in heat and simmering, eventhough it may seem flimsy/cheap?
     
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    If you read the link, Doc Mark pretty much covers the 550 B. I have two and like them both, even though they will likely never fall into the “classic” category. Other than the fuel cap, they are an O ring stove, maybe 6 or 7 IIRC. But not difficult to work on. They do have a bit of a “cheap” feel but they work very well: they light very easily and simmer great. The heat output is excellent. If you are feeling like just cooking and camping and are not looking to play with a classic, they are hard to beat.
     
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    @kerophile and @BradB Thanks for the info.
    Read a few of @Doc Mark comments - Laughed out loud when he described, how he kicked it in the river! :lol:

    Note-to-self: Be carefull asking questions about interesting stoves you don't have - they might automaticately move themself to the "gotta-have-list" :roll:
     
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    My favourite is a Bialaddin M1950.
    They have a poor simmer but when you get to know your stove they are entirely controllable. (I vent and re-light and it has a very stable simmer due to the brass tank making up the pressure again).

    I posted a couple of MINE a while ago :content:

    Alec.