Hope you don't mine me adding a bit here. Rucksack got me started, and searching flea-bay for TK800 turned up several (Chinese) sellers of assorted stoves - mostly the same units. The TK800 is also available as a "kit" with an extra fuel bottle, spare hose and a "BBQ cover"? Looks a bit like a big burner cover. I'm sorely tempted to get one (although I know my wife will say "how many stoves do you need?" - she says the same thing about my pocket-knife collection and my various multi-tools). What I really like about them, though, is the nice Kovea-type pump assembly. Plus, the fact that they all use the same Lindal (is that the right spelling?) connection means that the pumps should be interchangeable with the burners, thus giving me a spare pump.
On the theme of Bulin and BRS stoves. I believe they are actually different manufacturers in Yongkang, Zhejiang province. If you ask Bulin they state they are different. Yongkang is an industralised area of manufacturing in China. It's not uncommon for China manufacturing companies to copy each other or indeed other manufacturers like Kovea. e.g the BRS6 and the Kovea "Moonwalker" are identical. NO copyright laws in China !! Bulin state they have 10 years manufacturing experience in camping Equipment. The BRS range is made by the "Brothers Holding Group" thats why it's ( BRS ) who diversified into camping stoves about 3 years ago. They have similiar but not identical stoves. e.g the ( Plus2city TK800 ) BRS8 stove is similiar but not the same as the Bulin BL100-T4. The leg construction is slightly different. The pump is different and the BL100-T4 has an inbuilt nozzle cleaner. The BRS8 only uses one fitting for both the gas and liquid fuel ( with construction simiarities to the Kovea Booster ) but Bulin use two fittings for safety and reliability. Hope this helps all differentiate.
I have one of these - I am not sure under which label it was sold. I tried it in the past with white gas and with a propane canister, and it ran fine on both. Today I fired it on a cocktail of 70% white gas and 30% kerosene, and it burns beautifully. In the first minute it did cough a few times, but then ran smooth. I could not get it to simmer, though. Yonadav
I have looked at ebay listing for the stove in yonadev's images. Kerosene & diesel is definitely mentioned, but I am wondering about the accuracy of a listing that may have had to be translated. The topic mentions different jets. Are multiple jets enclosed with a stove for you to convert in the field?
Given what I saw when attempting to run one of those Chinese stoves on paraffin, nobody else should bother doing the same. Obviously the vendors of these stoves have never actually used one.......... There are no problems with using the cheap-as-chips gas ring Butane canisters or Panel Wipe. That is apart from the roar, which would make St George turn pale and run away.
I just got one of these stoves. Runs fine on white gas (what you guys call panel wipe?). One question I need to figure out: How do you depressurize the tank for storage? Do you flip the tank over so the intaketube sucks on air - like the video I've seen for the Nova? That hasn't worked for me so far, but I may try holding it pump-down to see I can blow the fuel out of the line.
mine does stop when the bottle flipped but it takes 2 minutes or so. I could also see it not working so well when full to the line. Noise is only about 2/3 a dragonfly so therefore its a quite stove. (still louder than a 123)
Hi As I understand, the English manual = nothing. If you dont look at pot supports / legs. How does the Brunton lander manual cope with this stove? Lander dsk
I tried 100% kerosene again, with the '30' jet after I put my BRS-8 into a Trangia with a Nova-Trangia adapter. It has a massive spirit cup for an extended prime. It starts OK, but goes 'off' if it is left for a short time with no pot on. I have settled on a mix of 70% kerosene & 30% white gas like Yonadev did. I shall have to see if it will still burn LPG with the '30' jet in.
Now I have got, and tested my BRS-8 too. It is slightly more lightweight than my Optimus Nova. It has higher output, and the pot stand/legs give an impression of being more rough. The noise is considerably worse too. The bell and flame spreader are getting dull red, and causes the tension of the lame spreader to disappear. The flame spreader tends to fall off. This stove is Banned here (actually in EU) due to a few happenings, and lack of documentation. As far as I see, tightening the hose burner connection is the biggest problem. Loktite did that for me I've not come to a conclusion yet, but one of my ideas is to take my old whisperlite burner, solder on a thereaded tube, cut the wire and put on the pump/hose on that one. Then I get a dual fuel stove, who probably simmers better than the comming MSR whisperlite universal. What do you think about this idea? dsk
The Chinese stoves would not burn pure (100%) kero, even with the '30' jet. However a mixture of 70% kero/30% white gas is manageable. However, you will need to extend the pre-heat burn time. I have two TK800 burners. One is fitted into a Nova-Trangia adapter. The other is as delivered apart from adding a coil of fibre-glass rope under the existing priming pad. When all that is soaked with alcohol and ignited there is more than enough heat to vapourise the 70/30 mixture efficiently when the priming flame starts to diminish.
Hi, I ve just received my brs 8, and as im working outdoors already tested it as well. works excelent with hungarian 'waschbenzine" (hun: foltbenzin, 80/110 I think). Only I cant figure ot how to use the multitool that came with it. Can anyone help me as to How I can change jet ( dismantling)?? THanks and any kind of help is welcome!
There is a socket on the end of the tube that swivels out next to the pin. Just untighten the jet with the socket, although as it is probably pretty tight if the socket is quite loose then I would suggest using a better fitting one from a socket set
Try white spirit instead of the heavier paraffin sold for heating greenhouses. The latter doesn't burn very well in any stove. White spirit is just a light kerosene, similar to some jet fuels. Don't get white spirit and white gas confused, though. As well as a narrower jet, kerosene stoves need to get more heat into the fuel. Sometimes the jet adds enough restriction, but apparently Coleman kero generators are also different inside (more turns on the coil?) to force the fuel to dwell longer. An old trick to improve kerosene vaporisation is to solder copper wire to the outside of the generator to make it absorb extra heat from the flame.
not sure but the generator on the brs8 I have appears to be stainless steel. Most other generators are brass. Stainless is not a good conductor which could be the problem using kero. We all know kero wont work but they still advertise flat out that it will. Ill keep to naptha and if I need to use kero Ill just grab the dragonfly
Decent enough price here for a new one for those interested (free shipping...): http://dx.com/p/brs-8-multi-functional-oil-gas-stove-90761
Hi Steve, I have one of these, works really great on panel wipe and butane/propane mix (Coleman) or the cheap butane cans (one needs to buy an adaptor for these cans). I have not tried it on kerosene, but others have with very unsatisfying results! The burner burns very hot and LOUD! Best regards, Wim
I did the trick of wrapping brass wire around the generator. That, the '30' jet & extra wick material for a extra-long priming duration is the only way to get a clean burn with kerosene. I would not habitually use kerosene, not unless I could get extra '30' jets. Same applies for white gas actually. You can get some spare jets, but I have no idea of the size of the orifice.
