Coleman tank: which model does it belong to?

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  1. orsoorso

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    Here you can see my 413G. The tank is not its proper one, and I do not care, but now I have to order a new generator, with jet and needle because the one I have is worn out.

    Could somebody tell me to which the model the tank and generator I have belong to? Thank you for any suggestion.

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    Thank you Norman. The 426 tank seems bigger of the original 413 one. I love this stove because it has never failed me, even with it's wornout jet and needle, just a bit af yellow flame when simmering.

    I'll order the generator, now I know what model it is.

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    Hi,

    You're welcome.
    I have a 413E and it's a blow torch and always works. I tried using kerosene and got some real great flame shots. The jet is way too big for kerosene.

    https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/19357

    Scroll down the page a bit and you will see the flame shots.

    Cheers,
    Norman
     
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    whoa, Kerosene in a Coleman suit case ??
     
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    The 502, 550B, and the suitcase stoves (as well as most lanterns) will run on kero - preheating is key...

    I've had great success with the now-discontinued Exponent Lantern - it was the smallest kero pressure lantern on the market up until a year or so ago!

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    The only reason I can see other than curiosity to attempt to run a Coleman White Gasoline appliance on kerosene is if Coleman Fuel (white gas, naptha, et. al.) was not available.

    "Your mileage, of course, may vary."

    Gerry
     
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    Hi,

    I have run kerosene/paraffin in my 500, 502, 508, and 533 with very good results.
    The reason I run kerosene/paraffin in these stoves is kerosene is cheaper than Coleman fuel.
    I have found I can run butane in these stoves with just a cap conversion. Of course this idea comes from reading Presscalls post on the subject. I also have a Coleman 501 that runs great on butane. The 501 is a run a way time bomb running Coleman fuel. You can see the fuel cap with schrader valve.

    https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/22000

    Cheers,
    Norman
     
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    Last I looked, Kero was ~ $8 per gallon.
    Coleman was $10.
    How much you spending on the pre-heat?
    Doesn't seem like a great amount of savings...
     
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    In Italy Coleman fuel is becoming more and more difficult to get, Coleman importer no more import it, and what was sold till few years ago as "benzina avio" as stain remover,and was a perfect white gas, now is additivated with disloropropano, a nasty, carcinogenic, higly toxic compound. Why? If someboady knows prease tell me.
    I heve run the 413 suitcase on almost any combustible fluid, and Kerosene is the best: priming with a CampingGaz blowtorch.
    It burns also diesel, but quite soothy and smelly and you heve not to give it full trottle, or it flares.

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    I just attempted purchasing from Coleman USA, but they seem to sell only in USA.
    Someboady could address me to an european retailer?.

    Orsoorso
     
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    Hello Orsoorso,

    Try contacting Mike at Old Coleman Parts he's in the United States but does ship overseas. The part number you need is 413A5621.
     
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    Hi Ray 123,
    The original tank of 413G have the fuel cap on the left side, mine is in the middle, BUT the generator is the same.

    Orsoorso
     
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    They re-designed the fill location, so it is now impossible to fill the tank without removing it...

    Apparently, some...shall we say, common sense challenged folks have cracked the fill cap open while the stove is running... :doh:
    And then sued Coleman, of course...
     
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    Oh, but you can allways remove the full tank, getting a fine flame thrower. If you are qick enough the vapor exiting the jet will take fire before the burnewr flame goes out, but to hurth yourself preoperly you have to be more ingenuous. With the side cap it was much esier.
    The average stupidity degree of surviving human kind is in direct proportion with the care taken as nobody can hurth yimself. (Darwing low corollary)

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    Yep, you can't fix stupid...
     
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    To some degree you can fix stupid. I have always thought the redesign of the Coleman tank cap position was smart safety engineering.

    When millions own a gasoline stove, a predictable number will try to refill it while running.
     
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    You are obviously right, but as a geologist, and therefore professionally devoted to darwinism, I complain for the average decrerase of human kind mental capability produced by the prevenction of stupids accidentally killing themself. :twisted: Anyway, it is quite probable I am still alive thank to such prevention. :mrgreen:

    Orsoorso
     
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    "Reproductive success" (offspring) is the measure of Darwinism. Variation and selection are The 2 factors. So variation causes dumb people to exist and selection causes them to reproduce (or not).
    So being stupid and getting hurt or killed is only bad if you have not reproduced yet, according to darwinism ... :D