Sooty, I don't drink alcohol, so I won't be putting any drinkable liquids in it. Thanks though, Ken in NC (Actually I do drink, but haven't in a very long time)
Skalkaho, You got your answer 15 posts ago. If you buy your small Nalgene bottle online if you might possibly share a link to what you decided to go with would be nice as we've come this far w/you, AND we're still going!!! back to the 4 oz request in the meanwhile I have found and will get myself a Ronson yellow plastic container offered as small as 5 oz. Here's a similar small container discussion btw https://classiccampstoves.com/posts/224142 BUT NOW this just got interesting +1 w/Spork "that's odd... mine says you can store alcohol in it." Most images provided are the vintage Nalgene that also say right on the front Heavy Duty Fuel Bottle. and Spork shared the back my two are quite old and have exact text as his. We (so far) show same company, same product w/two labels that entirely contradict each other. Sooty's warning is do not use it for ...mentholated spirits or methanol" don't [even] USE it VS ... safely STORE fuels. There's big contradiction between the 2. Sooty, You see now that is odd I wonder what your thoughts are re the discrepancy and on what other info might clear this up. I'm wondering if yours are newer? 2 w/very different labeling... what is up with that? (did Nalgene change position seeing liability and no upside to standing behind safely store fuels "Heavy Duty Fuel Bottles"? and adopting new "corporate" position, same bottle?). It has me curios. thx omc
Me neither, especially before the cocktail hour. After that I have been known to enjoy a martini or two (or three truth be told). Still, I applaud your "Gram Weenie" approach to camping. If we ever go camping together don't be surprised to open your pack and find a jar of olives I've stashed there.
Hi OleMan, It seems that Spork's bottle and my bottles are different. Though the red color makes them seem equivalent, they are not. I purchased my bottles about 1988 for a long distance hike. When did you get yours Spork? I have never seen them since. Mine were buried in the ground in caches along my route (ahh, the days before "angels" and "trail magic"...) Anyway, they held up perfectly to white gas storage. Several of them have had white gas in them continuously for 26 years and they have not changed at all that I can detect! Im guessing that Nalgene changed the formula for this bottle, or that they are just different bottles altogether and always were different. As posted above, my bottle are marked "NYL" on the bottom (see pics) and I think that this is an HDPE/Nylon blend (?). Spork, do your bottles have a mark on the bottom? So... later... I put some methyl alcohol (not martini's I am sorry to say) in one of those bottles, and it self destructed pronto. Back to Skalkaho's original topic: he wanted a small bottle that is reliable for gasoline storage. If you follow my link from post 325334, you can get small size fluorinated HDPE bottles (4oz and 8oz) from US plastics. They are not all that expensive. As snowcamper and others note, HDPE seems to be widely used, and fluorination seems to be the trick to making them aromatic-proof. These should be good for gasoline storage. I know pop-bottles or plain HDPE works fine for the short term, but as a result of this thread I went ahead and ordered a 4oz and an 8oz fluorinated for myself. I will test them and report back to the forum. Hey z1ulike: olives in the other guy's backpack is a good one! But you know what we do to other divers before jumping off the boat, right? A little chunk of tuna tied to the back of your BCD. Just in case there are any great whites, we want them to know who to pick out of the herd....
I forgot to say: It seems that the fluorination process makes HDPE alcohol-proof as well as gasoline proof. That's the logical conclusion from the label on Spork's bottle. And that's probably why Nalgene discontinued my (unfluorinated) "NYL" bottle in favor of a do-it-all fluorinated bottle like Spork's. I'll betcha that fluorination of HDPE started right about 1988-1989.
sooty, I don't recall exactly but it was likely the early 90's the bottom of mine have the HDPE symbol.
My apologies...I was relying on memory on the previous post...not a good thing these days The bottom is marked as FLPE - Fluorinated Polyethylene
Thanks for the pic Spork. It clears up a lot to know that bottle is FLPE. Echoing the chemical compatibility chart that z1ulike posted earlier, it seems that fluorinated polyethylene can potentially be good for just about everything stovies use- alcohol, aromatics, aliphatics. Everything except strong bases and oxidizers (Im sure you have to check the individual bottle-maker's specs of course). I wonder what plastic the lids of older MSR and SIGG bottles are made of? Surely not FLPE. I'll bet those caps are not "acceptable" according to the compatibility charts. But we've never worried about them, eh? Seems like there might be a lot of wiggle room.
Now the search is on to find a vendor who sells Nalgene FLPE bottles in less than full case quantities...
I found this, but now I have to do 'chores' for a while so I can't research more for now. 16 oz./500ml Nalgene Level 5 Fluorinated Bottle with 28mm Cap If wrong...sorry for the error. Ken in NC
here's what i use for brewups off the bicycle or when out for walks w/a fanny or day-pack: i remember that these were less than a Hamilton, but devil if i can remember where i got 'em! willie on the early onset of you-know-what Gulf of Mexico EDIT: Oops! here is one example of many on Amazon (looks like prices are over the map?): jerry can flask
Ken and Spork: Follow my link titled "Fluorinated Plastic Bottles" in post 325334 (above). As you will see, US Plastics sells individual wide-mouth and narrow-mouth fluorinated bottles in 4oz, 8oz, 16oz, 32oz, gallon, 5-gallon, etc sizes. Willie: awesome jerry-can flask! Perfect for fuel storage. Thanks for sharing.
I ordered some 250ml bottles, also found some "Poison" labels to use on them. I read somewhere that the caps are Flourinated PP...Polypropylene?
