Evolution of a storm cooker - the Meta 50

Discussion in 'Meta' started by presscall, Oct 29, 2014.

  1. HaraldG

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    Hi John,

    thank you for your welcome and your link to the catalogue. Unfortunately I have no "permission to view this page or perform this action." when i click on your link.

    The alcohol burner has a significantly larger diameter compared to the Trangia burner. It does not have a simmerring. It looks old, but I have no idea wether it is an original part of the cook set or if it was later added as a replacement. There aren´t any markings or engravings on the burner. Its heat output is impressive when fully "bloomed" but it also creates much more soot on the pans compared to the trangia. The fuel I use is "100 %" bioethanol; I do not believe that diluting the alcohol with water prevents soot.

    As soon as I find the time, I will take a few photos of the cookset and the burner to upload it. As I am not very familiar with the dos and donts in this forum, please let me know if I should open a new thread or if I should post my fotos here in your thread.

    Kind regards,

    Harald
     
  2. presscall

    presscall United Kingdom PotY Winner SotM Winner SotY Winner Subscriber

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    @HaraldG
    Thanks for your reply Harald.

    My apologies, I forgot that the access to site literature is accessible only to registered members who have taken out a Subscription.

    Here's an extract from the catalogue. I've reproduced the front cover, the page explaining what Meta fuel is, the Meta 50 we both own and an infant's milk warmer to show something of the variety of the company's product range.

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    I'm happy for you to post your photos here, but you might want to log another example (yours) of this early version of a Meta 50 in the Stove Reference Gallery and upload your photos there as contributors do.

    I agree, adding water to the fuel does nothing to reduce blackening of the base of a pot. I gather it's added by some people to make the flame visible in daylight, but I like a clean-burning blue flame myself!

    John
     
  3. HaraldG

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    :thumbup:

    John, thank you very much for your answer and pics out of the catalogue.

    Maybe I will open a thread introducing my Meta collection (which will soon get two new members :)).

    Harald
     
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    I look forward to seeing your Meta collection very much, Harald.

    John
     
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    Good to see - thank you! Same or very similar alcohol burner indeed.

    John
     
  7. SveaSizzler

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    I tried to register with Ricardo.CH to order a Meta-50, but kept getting bounced back to the registration form. I'm guessing they are not interested in US buyers.
    I had similar problems trying to order from the Green Store [ a fiddlers green for mil-surp collectors and vintage stovies] with bargain prices. Until it calculated shipping to the USA -- it was about three times the value of the total order.
    Too bad,
    Brian
     
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    SveaSizzler United States Subscriber

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    Correction: I only had to change some numbers on the phone area code bloc, and the system progressed to querry my email address. I responded and now they will send me an activation code by surface mail.
    Hopefully a 10 Franc deal does not incurr a 30 Franc shipping charge. Currently I get 1.00 CHF at 1.03 USD.
    Wish me luck,
    Brian
     
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    That spirit burner have the same dimensions as the "swedish military" burner that was made by Trangia but the lid tells it is not swedish - early Wisla burners was same size different shape while the first Wisla stove was like a clone of first version Meta 50 but with slightly different pots.
    My swedish military burners fits perfect in my Wisla stoves so I guess it is a common size for many producers in different countries.
     
  10. blabast88 France

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    Hi John @presscall and everyone,

    One of those "meta 50" early model was for sale in France a couple of months ago. I also think that I've seen it somewhere in my documentation, but I'll need to verify...

    In my opinion, that cook set is not made by meta. What makes me think that way is the mention on your document that clearly introduce a "burner FOR tourism-kitchen set", and the fact that the brand name "meta" is written anywhere on those pots. The example seen in France came with the same alcohol burner as @HaraldG, which reinforce the hypothesis that this cook set is from another manufacturer. The "mont blanc" kitchen is mentionned in one french catalogue from the 1920's or the 1930's, but it doesn't quite look like this one. My thoughts are that Meta only made the burner, that could be used in that mont-blanc cook set, and then they developed their own integrated-pot product line.

    Bastien