One would almost most think that the banned member watches CCS avidly or has minions reporting to him everything that is said here. But if I thought that, surely I would be mistaken.
Howdy, All, I guess I'm not surprised. Once Gary has put you on his "no fly" list, you are pretty much there, permanently. For those who say he has "changed", and wants to live and let live, I am afraid you are mistaken. He has shown that he can never return to being a productive and sharing member of the CCS Family, and he has shown that quite a few times, both now, and in the past. I truly feel sorry for him, and worry that he will never move on beyond the demons that seem to control his outlandish behavior, and fuel his hatred and angst against CCS, and truthfully, ANYONE who disagrees with him. His cross to bear, but part of my sadness is that he really doesn't have to bear it, at all, if he had a forgiving and honest heart. Sigh..... such is the way of life, it seems. On the bright side, CCS and it's sharing membership, remains the mainstay of information and help for Stovies in need!! I am now motivated to possibly make a few videos, myself, showing some of the basic in's and out's of some of the things that we all need to know. Or, maybe we can begin a coordinated and combined effort to make and post such videos here on site, where they will be available to one and all. I'm in, even though not a fettler the likes of others we have here at CCS, like Kerophile, Presscall, and so many other talented and sharing folks. What say you, Fellow Stovies? Does such an idea seem worthwhile?? Talk to you soon, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc
Doc that is a good idea. I have been thinking along the same lines myself. Personally I do not need any information from any of BD's videos, but it is a shame that he has blocked them from stovie novices who might benefit form them. I am willing to make videos though I do not possess many videoing skills. I am sure that many CCS members are far more skilled than me and might be willing to contribute. In fact I know that some members have already made videos and we can include them. Initially we might need a list of what videos are currently available from members.
I remember the good old days when we were all so innocent with this 'fledgling' hobby! I'm forever grateful that our members continue to support & develop this community & that everyone from the novice through to our more experienced & skilled members support all who come here for help, support or just to share their enthusiasm for this strangely satisfying hobby of ours. When did it get so serious? With regard to the video - is it just the SRV one? Maybe it's being updated in light of issues with thread-lock talked about here? I did a test of another one & it worked ok. Let' see if it works here:
I have tried a lot of the past BD videos and they are still viewable if the Youtube icon is clicked. I presume that BD was punishing me (I am sooooooo flattered) by blocking the video in question from the novices who might have found it informative.
Why reinvent the wheel? Gary's videos are most excellent. He's probably just upset that the website that banished him is using his videos without first asking. Why not contact Gary and ask permission to use his videos (unless you already have). Surely that would be easier than redoing them yourself. Ben
Ross, I sincerely hope you are right, but we'll see.... Either way, I still like the idea of us doing our own videos, and saving them here for all to see. We don't use sites like Photobucket, or other off-site photo links, for a very good reason: Stuff disappears, willy-nilly, over time. Having our own videos right here at CCS will help cure that. Makes sense to me. Thanks for your always even-handed post, Ross. Take care, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Mark
Hi Ben BernieDawg's videos were all 'public' videos, not just for CCS but for anyone using the Internet. The links on CCS are just the same links that anyone could find using a Youtube search. They were always meant as a free resource for anyone. We have never sought permission from BD to put links to his videos without permission because they were public videos. The fact that he has now put in restrictions based solely on what is happening on CCS tells a lot about his animosity and hatred. Some members are blind to this, despite what trusted members on CCS repeat again and again.
They are indeed but youtube is about sharing unless the video owner decides against it. Youtube provides embed URLS & social media sharing tools to help spread the clips. I'm not interested in using his video's as a CCS resource but folk will always try to point people to whatever resources there are on the net. Using the link function might work instead of just pasting the URL - lets see Link to video There we go.
Nice try Ross, but can you give a similar link to the SRV video? - I think not. Scrooge has blocked it. But we don't need it. It was just another string to our bow that is probably best broken.
I cannot stay silent any longer. I think these ideas are opinions and do not seem to have any basis in fact. Unless you can say Gary said something, then please let it be known that it is an opinion. And just that, an opinion. No, I have not heard from him, nor am I his ambassador. But after a few times reading this crap, on a public, Fettling Forum, supposedly a topic about a tool, in a forum about stoves, I for one think it has gone too far. We all know what some of you think of Gary, and others feel the opposite. There are far more of us that are neutral, and do not wish to get involved in personal bashing, no matter who it is or who's side you have chosen. They are his videos to do as he wishes, not yours to post where you want. If he does not want them public anymore, it is not for you to have an opinion about him, just about the loss of the information, which you all thought was quite important or you would not be ranting about it. Contact him directly and ask him yourself. Please stop. Or take it to the Lounge Forum where you can say anything. Ken in NC (I am neutral, but tired of it. Remember I was not involved in any of the crap)
Ken I am not really concerned about BernieDawg's videos. The recent posts are because of what he has decided to do about his videos because of perfectly innocent things that have happened on CCS - i.e. praising his videos and suggesting that members look at them. I am more concerned with the future and providing our own CCS videos that will not be held available on the whims of someone not involved with CCS. As for me not having an opinion about this devisive, ex-CCS member, it is not for you to dictate to me.
I understand Ken. The video seems to be gone from his youtube collection too & the URL shows it as private so it may be gone for ever or may be removed for an edit like I guessed at before. I don't know. I think conclusions have been made because I believe it vanished not long after posted here. As you say it is his resourse to do with as he wishes. I thank you for expresing your concerns. I'm certainly not ranting I hope..
I did not intend to direct my words at anyone, just that it was far astray from stove fettling. This is the fettling forum. Text is a poor means of communication, especially for me. And, I am not a you tube guy, I read things on a forum, CCS. Maybe you've heard of it. Ken in NC
Let's get back, as Ken says, to what is right for CCS. Yes I have heard of it and it has been my life for many years. Long may it continue in the same way for many years ahead.
Trevor & Ross, What harm is there in asking Gary for permission to use his YouTube videos on CCS? Are you too proud to ask or are you afraid of being turned down if you do? The entire stove community would be better off if CCS would come to some sort of détente with BernieDawg. Ben
