Fettlebox SRV tool

Discussion in 'Fettling Forum' started by Longilily, Nov 5, 2015.

  1. gremlin70

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    Thank you. The Penta drive was what I was most interested in. The multi tool can wait. Sorry things are "a bit hectic". Hope it is not serious.
     
  2. Longilily

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    Hi

    No, nothing serious Gremlin, some people round here have had far worse ! But thanks for the sentiment :thumbup:

    It's Ross you need to deal with now, I'm just the guy that makes them. Ross (The Fettlebox) is doing the actual selling

    Cheers
     
  3. gremlin70

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    Are these being sold through the Fettle Box shop? I was hoping to get these for Christmas presents, but I see that the shop is closed till January. Help please.
     
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  5. Longilily

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    Having tried the heat approach to release the SRV screw a few pages back, I was keen to try the Acetone approach (well, it's a 50/50 mix of Acetone and ATF that most of us are aware of) . I needed a screw which was stuck fast to really prove the acetone approach, and what better than Doc's sheared screw (also a few pages back).
    He kindly sent me his cap for me to service, so was the perfect candidate. As you may of read, Doc used a lot of force with his wrench and ended up splitting the SRV screw along with twisting the tool itself, giving some indication of the force used to try and overpower the threadlock.

    Here she is......

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    Great stuff, now we can drop it into the Acetone/ATF solution for 48 hours and try to grab the brass remains with some pliers and get a feel for just how much the Acetone has done its job

    48 hours later....

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    Voila....

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    The screw came out just nice with next to no fraction or grab at all. To me it came out far easier than the heat approach, but as discussed earlier in the thread, it probably depends on what type of threadlock is used and whether that particular type is broken down more with either method of heat or acetone.
    For me in future, I'll go for acetone first off and I've posted this really, to reinforce George's @kerophile statement some way back in this thread

    Yep, quite agree George :thumbup:
     
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    Hi @Longilily and others, just to save you having to wade through this long and depressing thread, here is what I said about stuck SRVs:


    "Hi, In this situation you have at least three possible outcomes:

    1. The screw releases,

    2. The brass screw deforms or ruptures, or

    3. The steel key deforms or breaks.

    Something has to give!

    I guess the user of the tool wants to apply sufficient load that the SRV scew releases and comes free.

    However, we do know that thread-lock compounds were used it these SRV assemblies to prevent dismantling.

    If you read the instructions on thread locking compounds such as Locktite Blue, they tell you that the assembly has to be heated to around 250 deg C to degrade the cured locking compound BEFORE attempting removal of the screw to which it has been applied.

    Getting a longer lever, or a harder steel tool is not the way forward.

    Heat up the SRV with a torch to persuade the locking compound to release its hold, then insert the tool and un-screw the cap.

    Best Regards,
    Kerophile.
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  7. Doc Mark

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    Hi, @Longilily,

    WOW!! That was quick, and apparently, very easy!! I've long used acetone to unstick the steel/ball NRV in Coleman stoves and lanterns, with 100% success. But, I never gave thought to using it on a stuck SRV in a cap! Well done, my friend, and thank you, very much! I look forward to purchasing your special tools, whenever they are ready for sale, and I shall not forget to try acetone on stuck SRV's, BEFORE busting them into bit!! :oops: :doh: :shock: :lol::lol: Again, well done, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
    Doc
     
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    Well, then you didn't read this thread as well as you should, Doc.;)
    I mentioned the acetone as a mean of dissolving thread lock long ago in this topic.
    Alcohol work on some and acetone on other. It depend on the composition of the thread lock.
     
  9. Longilily

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    You certainly did Christer hence this trial :thumbup:

    Sorry George, best I sign off then

    Hope in the meantime, some have found it useful

    Cheers
     
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    Hi, Christer and All,

    You are right, and I remember you offering up that excellent suggestion. Wish I had taken your advice, but in truth, in all the SRV's I've serviced since first getting into stoves, I've never found one that would not be removed by normal means. As mentioned above, I've used acetone on Coleman NRV's before, with 100% success. But, I just couldn't fathom that the SRV in a fuel cap would require that method!! Too late old, and too late smart, it seems!! Thanks for the excellent advice! Take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
    Doc
     
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    Apologies for the delay - tools due for imminent release!
     
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    EXCELLENT!! I wait, with "fettled breath", to place my order!!!!! :D/:thumbup:

    Doc
     
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    Can I reserve this tool ?
     
  14. Longilily

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    Hi Steph @Steph

    Don't worry, no one will go without, if they want one of these tools and Ross (The Fettlebox) has found himself out of stock ! I will make another batch of whatever range has run out. At least for some months to come !



    Hope this reassures :thumbup:

    Cheers
     
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    The tools will be listed in around 24 hours. They will be on the The Fettlebox store only to start with so plenty of opportunity for CCS members to get one.

    Thanks for your patience.
     
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    I just ordered one of the multi tools even though I don't have a stove to use it on. However, at the rate I'm accumulating stoves I probably will by the time the tool arrives. :D/

    Ben
     
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    Howdy, All,

    I finally got the FB order setup, with help from Ross! (Thanks, Mate!) I've placed an order for two tools, one the Penta Wrench, and the other is the Multitool. Might seem redundant to some, but not to me. They will both be put to excellent use, and I'll appreciate each one every time I use them! Thanks to @Longilily , and @Spiritburner , for making, and then offering, these fine tools to us!!! HUZZAH!! I will post a report and photos, after my new tools arrive, and I've had a chance to enjoy and use them. Take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
    Doc
     
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    Fettlebox is currently out of stock with these. Any plans to do another run? Thank you.
     
  20. Afterburner

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    Some alternatives from this thread https://classiccampstoves.com/threa...the-center-of-the-tank-cap.33108/#post-338265 if 'The Master SRV Tool' is not available:

    Square one is Roberts/Robertson #2 if I am not totally wrong:
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