Welcome to CCS. Can you please add a photo here? Sometime later that link may no longer be available. Ken
I've brought home a production sample of the plastic my buddy uses in his 3D printer, and have pieces soaking in alcohol, kerosene, and white gas right now. @Mohoganogan If everything else lines up, do you mind if we use your design and run a few of these off for the stoving community? It would be a not-for-profit venture on my side, just pass through whatever my buddy charges for this service.
I believe that would be acceptable. Since I recreated a commercial item I listed it as a design that can not be made and sold for profit.
Greetings, All, That red pour spout was called a "Canedy" cap/spout, back when it was offered, years ago. Sigg offered them, as a means of pouring more easily, with far less spillage. I still have several of them, and they still work perfectly. I DID crack one, long ago, and had to toss it. But, those spouts date to at least the early 1980's, if not slightly before, and the ones I use are still doing just fine. Here's what Colin Fletcher wrote about them: Great little invention, and I should think they would be very popular with Stovies, and backpackers who use liquid fueled stoves. I'D most certainly buy some of them, should this venture come to pass!! Take care, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc
Great news. They look like hugely useful devices. Has anyone tried them with the child resistant caps? This evening will be 24 hours with plastic in the fuels. Datasheet for the resin is here: http://elegoo.com/tutorial/MSDS for ELEGOO Photopolymer Resin.pdf If anyone has experience and can comment, that would help. Fuel resistance is the only stumbling block, now.
I have one, but I’ve never tried it with the child resistant cap. Looks like it would work though. I LOVE mine, and would buy a pile more of them if it were an option.
Likely would require a slight redesign to work with the caps which resist easy opening. The O-ring is recessed in such a way that it likely would not make contact to make a proper seal. On first glance it would be an easy modification but would be a design that must have a specific up and down side.
I have never been a fan of MSR and never will be. The final straw was, when shopping for an additional fuel bottle, that they had installed the idiot-proof caps on their bottles. Their bottles were the one thing they made that was decent. When I bitched about it, as I am wont to do, an REI employee exclaimed "But sir! their middle name is Safety!". Yeah, right. Skeedaddle, grasshopper. Fortunately, Primus still sold decent bottles with real caps. I didn't need to buy a product with a useless appendage and spend an additional sum of money to buy a proper appendage. Junk products should be something to opt into, not out of. I ordered up a handful of them there printed spouts through Print-A-Thing. I have had pretty good luck with printed stuff from Thingiverse.
Print-A-Thing may be the better option here. Looks like they have PLA and ABS plastics available. @TheSandMan Please let us know how you like your pour spouts when they arrive. Edit: Haven't had a chance to get out to the shop and check the plastic samples soaking in fuel. Had quite a lot going on lately.
@Marc, Will do. I ordered them in ABS. It seemed a better option than PLA, which is a biodegradable bioplastic. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Though I am not overly concerned with the fuel resistance issue (they aren't storing fuel and will be only intermittently in contact with fuel) I will toss one into a beaker of fuel and see how it fares. The Print-A-Thing price was $.86/ea with a set-up fee of $10. My handful will cost me $3/ea. The way to do this, obviously, is to order up 50 and get the unit cost down to $1.06 so they can be sold reasonably. I think that as long as they are being sold at an incurred cost that there should be no license violation. A hearty "Thank you!" to @Mohoganogan for designing this 3D and for putting it out there for non-commercial use.
That pricing is fantastic, assuming the stuff plays well with fuel that'll definitely be the way to go. My buddy's printer uses a different method, photo solidifying resin. Material cost isn't high but there's so little material deposited per pass that it takes a LONG time to make anything, which costs. 0.004" per layer and 5 seconds wait time between layers or something like that. A 1" tall doohickey will take several hours to print.
@TheSandMan Mountain Safety Research : équipement pour le camping, la randonnée et l’alpinisme Under 7 dollars. Your problem was thinking an REI employee knew what they were selling. That is a rare employee these days.
Thank you for making my point so well. First, you buy a $20 bottle that has an idiot-proof cap on it, then you buy a $7 cap to replace the idiot-proof cap so that when it is dark, freezing cold, and raining that you don't have to fiddle with the idiot-proof cap to get some fuel. Thus, you pay $27 for a bottle that has a cap you don't want rather than $20 for a fuel bottle with a cap that you do want with the option to buy an idiot-proof cap for $10 if you feel that you need one. Me, I'll just buy avoid MSR and buy a $20 fuel bottle with a cap that has a proper cap. Or not, seeing as how I have more fuel bottles than I can shake a stick at. I have no problem in this regard, but thanks. I know very well that the average REI employee has no idea what the jump the $%^& up and down is going on. Their bro-mance with certain suppliers and their lack of innovative outdoor notions takes me to other vendors. REI have lost their way.
@TheSandMan @snwcmpr I lived in Seattle when REI was a real climbing and backpacking co-op. It was great. And it smelled like the wooden warehouse it was, and of leather boots, and canvas, and goose down (probably not, but whatever). Now it is all spandex, jogging bras, and carbon-fiber nose-ring stabilizers (probably). Lucky, I do not need to go there anymore.
I, too, am done with REI. San Dimas, Ca. was my first REI, a great store. One of the seasonal employees was 'Ranger Rick'. A real Ranger. Then when I was in Wa REI was the place to get gear. Rent or buy, you could actually get outdoors with their gear. Now REI is on the path with California. More political than anything else. I stopped supporting them. I like MSR. A company is worthy of me paying an employee for a product. I am glad they make the other cap available. Many companies would give up and just comply. Ken
