Hey, Gents, I've sent a note to a couple of CCS Mate, whom I believe own versions of the Geniol army stove, but thought I'd toss it out for anyone with an opinion on this. I may well buy one of these guys, before too long, and would appreciate any thoughts, comments, or opinions as to whether the German version, or the Dutch version, is the better of the two? Also, anyone with experience with these stoves, if you have suggestions, or comments about that, I'd appreciate hearing them. Thanks, very much, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc P.S. Photos of each kind would be very helpful, and much appreciated! Thanks, again!
Hey, David, Many thanks, Lad! I had seen that thread about you acquiring that neat rig from Ian, and wanted one of those, very much. Now, I need to know what folks think of the Dutch version, compared to the German version. I'm leaning towards the German stove, for several reasons, but it would be nice to hear other folk's opinions of both. Thanks, again, for linking to that post on your Geniol! Since you've had it, has it been stellar in performance, or less so? What does it weigh, if I may ask? Take care, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc (who lusts after too many stoves, and has neither the money, nor the time, for them all!!)
Hi Doc, I just happen to work on a German Bund Geniol stove. Actually my second one. The first one is back to excellent working condition. This other one will be too. Soon. Great help that many parts are identical to Petromax lantern parts, so getting spares is easy. Let me try to answer your questions : weight is pretty heavy, around 4,5 kg (tank empty). Pretty massiv tank and steel case. Difference between the dutch and the german version seems to me that the dutch version misses the filler cap (dutch version to be filled after removal of the manometer). This means it also missed the valve in the filler cap. I do not think that this stove develops extra high pressure in it's large tank but just to mention) Overall, terrific big stove. Usually will go for around 100 Euro but you might be lucky... All the best Mike
Hi folks, Just saw that in the big auction platform they are currently selling used Geniol stoves for 50 Euro. Hopw that they are in good condition (just bought one, thought it won't get any cheaper). Just in case that anyone still needs one... (search for "Petroleumkocher") Cheers Mike
Man! those are handsome. Bit pricey I wld assume, Doc? Sure it's worth it either way. Is it a store? Or a ebay/private deal? If the former, location?!? if the latter, never mind. I wont slash..or even try. What's the full name/brand and operational asignment #(s?) so I know what to hunt down?
This is the dutch version that I own. It works as a charm, but I have a problem. It has a small leak in the burner head. It operates fine, but you can see pufs of unburned kero koming from underneith the burner plate. (Don't have pictures right now) It is due to a production fault, as far as I can see the coper solder to solder the vaporizer tube to the burner plate wasn't done correctly. I'll bring the beast with me to newark, perhaps someone has a spare geniol burner head assemly wich I can buy or someone knows how to coper solder and can repair it for me.
I have one too, and use it often, it is a very practical stove. In some ways... I hardly dare to say it.. even better than a 111c. Okay it is a bit on the heavy side, and its not multifuel, but it the priming is very practical, and it never overheats if you put large objects on it. On mine the fillercap/pressure meter has the pressure release knob, I guess thats the same in both the german and the dutch version. I like the one best with the pressure release on the front side of the stove, because its easier to reach. I love the stove because it is just the best match for the coleman oven, and other very large / heavy things, because it is low to the ground and very stable. There is only one tiny thing that I really dislike on this stove; it is a pain to clean the nipple! When it gets blocked during use, all you can do is let it cool off, so you can remove the burner cap, and use the pricker. You can't really reach the jet from the sides.
Jan-Willem, You are right that this is not practical. However it is very easy to fix. the cleaning needle (that is what you miss) has just been removed as obviously there was a handling problem on the side of the troops using this stove. Solution is to simply buy a cleaning needle (like the one for optimus 111s that you can get at Base-camp or other places) and put it after removing the jet. Just make sure it is sitting in the right position. Solved. As you said, this stove is really hevy but great to work and very stable. I have never seen this stove overheat even after running for a long time. Cheers Mike
cool! Thanks mike! I'll take a look at that, I've never looked inside the burner to check for a place for the needle. I think I have a spare needle somewhere
