Good places to buy fuel

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  1. Ed Winskill

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    Depends a lot where you live. I haven't seen kero at the pump for many moons....
     
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    I had trouble with the clear undyed kerosene here that I got at the station. It clogged up burners.
    I buy the expensive stuff now.
     
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    I use the expensive stuff in my kerosene stoves. The pump fuel burns well in my shop heater. I have burned some in the past, not much, in kero stoves. Maybe I didn’t burn enough to cause any issues.
     
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    Kero from the pump died out in most of the US a long time ago, too.

    ....Arch
     
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    Crown Fuel is still $8 at Academy in the US.
     
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    Yep... Coleman Camp Fuel runs around $12/gallon at Walmart, and the Crown stove fuel which is just about the same stuff runs about $8. K-1 kerosene is about $6. For Coleman stoves, or any stove designed to burn white gas, this stuff is affordable enough that using it is not a big deal. It's not like we're burning 100 gallons a year... maybe two or three? Maybe ten gallons, if we have a camp or retreat we go to regularly and cook food for the family? One good reason to buy this stuff is to keep it available at local stores. I mean, it's cheaper than a couple of Starbucks coffees, or a Big Meal at McDonald's.
     
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    The price of Coleman kind of annoys me, not because it amounts to much because, as you say, even a stovie doesn't use all that much.

    When I came to CCS (19 years ago [!]) Coleman fuel in the US was under 4 bucks per gallon, had been for years, and was for a long time thereafter (in the US, of course). Then it went swiftly through the roof, to around $14 most places hereabouts.

    The Crown white gas at WalMart is more like it.

    I don't know for sure, but I think Coleman subsidized fuel for years to support the stove brand. Even 20 years ago, Coleman white gas stoves were still ubiquitous and very much still in the stores, notwithstanding years of LPG stove sales. That's now changed a lot. Many stores won't even have them, and those that do will only have a couple of one model.

    So the fuel isn't 'underwritten' any more. Just my speculation.
     
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    Here in CA you won't see Kero at the pump either. December last year bought a 5 gal pail at TSC for around $26 was on sale for the Hollidays and regular price is around $35. Been thinking to order or buy A1 fuel at my local airport but need to call ahead
     
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    @Pancholoco1911 If you can, ask for Jet A, it does not have the additive to prevent icing.
     
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    Last time I pulled kero out of my 55 gallon drum, it was starting to look a bit off. I need to hurry up and use it up. If I come across a deal like that again, I need to make sure and use it faster.
     
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    >>If you can, ask for Jet A, it does not have the additive to prevent icing.

    I would not make this assumption. Smaller regional airports may have it delivered with the anti-icing agents whereas larger airports are more likely to add it themselves. As I understand it, the stuff is pretty toxic, so it's worth at least asking.
     
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    Just thought I'd throw a local fuel supplier on this thread in case anybody near me is need of parrafin/kerosene etc

    CP Lubricants
    Driver Wharf
    Southampton

    No relation to them other than we use them for our oil at work and their parrafin for our parts cleaner so I'll be honest I couldn't say how good the price is but its quite good quality.
    Cheers all,
    Lloyd
     
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    kero is hard to find in the UK, Runnymede, me, the nearest place i have found in south of me on coast, to far to drive over 50 miles one way
     
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    @CRAZY CRAB There will be something closer than 50 miles. I find that most rural garages round me have at least got prepackaged paraffin. Urban garages don’t stock it because nearly everyone has central heating in the towns but country folk still use paraffin heaters. You could also try farm supply stores or garden centres (when they reopen later this week) because lots of greenhouse heaters still use it.
    Regards
    John
     
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    I have looked, no Kero in Runnymede, had loads of people say, what is kerosene, have to laugh, got a small airport near me, even they dont sell it, but got some jet fuel, that works, 90p a Lt, get loads of paraffin,
     
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    Kerosene = Paraffin in UK, right?
     
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    @snwcmpr that’s always been my understanding.
    There are many posts on this site that refer to jet A and domestic heating oil.
    I also recall recommendations to use liquid barbecue lighting fluid, not gel, as was sold by Wilko in the UK at the time.
    Regards
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    Nope, kero and paraffin are 2 different fuels, they are close, but not the same, Kero is cheaper, you can run a jet engine on kero, but not paraffin,
     
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    I agree on price but how much do you have to buy if you have a round trip of 100 miles to pay for? Other than that we will have to agree to disagree. I am more than satisfied that the difference, if there is one, is so slight that there is no practical difference for use in camp stoves.

    from wikipedia:

    Kerosene, also known as paraffin, lamp oil, and coal oil (an obsolete term), is a combustible hydrocarbon liquid which is derived from petroleum. It is widely used as a fuel in aviation as well as households. Its name derives from Greek: κηρός (keros) meaning "wax", and was registered as a trademark by Canadian geologist and inventor Abraham Gesner in 1854 before evolving into a genericized trademark. It is sometimes spelled kerosine in scientific and industrial usage.[1] The term kerosene is common in much of Argentina, Australia, Canada, India, New Zealand, Nigeria, and the United States,[2][3] while the term paraffin (or a closely related variant) is used in Chile, eastern Africa, South Africa, Norway, and in the United Kingdom.[4] The term lamp oil, or the equivalent in the local languages, is common in the majority of Asia. Liquid paraffin (called mineral oil in the US) is a more viscous and highly refined product which is used as a laxative. Paraffin wax is a waxy solid extracted from petroleum.

    Kerosene is widely used to power jet engines of aircraft (jet fuel) and some rocket engines and is also commonly used as a cooking and lighting fuel, and for fire toys such as poi. In parts of Asia, kerosene is sometimes used as fuel for small outboard motors or even motorcycles.[5] World total kerosene consumption for all purposes is equivalent to about 1.2 million barrels (50 million U.S. gallons; 42 million imperial gallons; 190 million liters) per day.[6]

    To prevent confusion between kerosene and the much more flammable and volatile gasoline, some jurisdictions regulate markings or colorings for containers used to store or dispense kerosene. For example, in the United States, Pennsylvania requires that portable containers used at retail service stations for kerosene be colored blue, as opposed to red (for gasoline) or yellow (for diesel fuel).[7]
     
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    trying to find some one in my area that has boiler fuel, even that is hard to find, they are very posh in Runnymede,