I don't know what I found

Discussion in 'Mystery Stoves' started by yonadav, Aug 23, 2011.

  1. yonadav

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    I picked this at a flea market today. Obviously, it is the innards of some kitchen type kero stove, but this is about all I can say about it. It is missing the priming cup, and the burner flame plate. (I have no idea what the flame plate should look like - don't know if it is roarer or silent.) The vaporizer is a small section of the flame ring. I have never seen a burner of this type. The main burner tube is cracked. There are absolutely no imprints whatsoever, not even on "classical" locations like the filler cap.

    Can anybody tell me what it is?

    Yonadav

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  2. presscall

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    I haven't a clue as to the manufacturer, Yonadav, but I must say it's quite a find.

    The disregard for 'conventional' burner configuration is intriguing. Could it be a local (Israeli) production?

    That cantilever burner tube arrangement seems to have let it down, creating stresses that led to that burner tube fracture I reckon.

    John
     
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    Interesting thing! Never seen that type of burner head before, any clue about it's fuel?
     
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    It appears to have an air screw in the filler cap assembly, so I assume it's a kero burner. Most unusual.

    HJ
     
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    Amazing find. I'm glad you saved it from a sad death in the scrap pile. Good going.



    Al
     
  7. yonadav

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    Hi all,

    I understand that so far, none of us have ever seen a similar burner.

    The burner design has marked similarity to that of the "Genius" burner by A.-B. Forgasningsapparater of Goteborg, circa 1921.

    I am still lacking any clue to how the burner head / flame plate might have looked. I wonder if one of Gary's silent caps could fit in for a test firing. (This assumes I, or perhaps somebody more skilled than me at silbrazing, could fix the ruptured tube.)

    Yonadav
     
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    Very interesting; good save indeed.

    Maybe a flame plate with short vertical (or near-vertical) legs could have fit inside the burner ring on that inner lip?
     
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    Good Evening,
    dont start it, you can see there is something broken at the last Foto!

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  10. yonadav

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    Of course the tube is broken. My description says so in at least two places.

    The question still remains:

    Has anybody among CCS member and visitors ever seen a burner of this type, or do I have the first exemplar of this extinct stove species in 80 years?

    Yonadav


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    That would be my vote. And...
    I've thinking this exact thing since my first glimpse of your find two days ago. ;) Problem is, Yonadav, if you have the only one known to man, should anyone really be monkeying around with it? Should it be preserved untouched for future generations, perhaps? And, does the metal of the broken burner tube look sound enough to be braze-able? :-k I don't think a repair would be invisible.

    I'm inclined to think a silent cap something like the "Genius" Ross linked to above would be correct since the tank and burner arrangement suggests a household stove to me. The "Genius" cap bears more than a passing resemblance to the Radius and Primus "Special Silent" caps of yore. Maybe something along these lines with straighter sides?
    https://classiccampstoves.com/posts/98626

    Congratulations on your find. :clap:
    Cheers,
    Gary
     
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