Large Stoves catering for groups

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    Re: scouts and cooking, I have a Jamboneering reprint pamphlet from 1960 or so full of articles about cooking with charcoal briquettes, which would be required at the upcoming national jamboree. Pamphlet is copyright 1956.
     
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    That sound a good reference, can you scan and PDF?
    Have to say my father would like a look at it
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    @Surveyor, I would like to scan it, but it is forty-two oversize pages. You mght try googling "Jamboneering pamphlet" and see what you find. (I have found similar items on the 'bay.)

    This stuff was written back in the days when scout kids like me didn't have a lot of extra money, so so-it-yourself was another Boy Scout Merit Badge (see the tent in my picture)!! Among the articles in this pamphlet are articles on how to make your own sleeping bag, your own pack sack, a huge monkey bridge for crossing streams, two tents and a full-size teepee! Then, the charcoal cooking stuff!

    The reprint of the article on sleeping bags notes that would be usable at the 1953 Third National Jamboree in Irvine Park California, so this gives us a date as to the cooking information.

    The charcoal article states that charcoal is to be used for the first time at this Jamboree (1953) for cooking to avoid hundreds (?) of patrol cooking campfires with their inherent damage to the grounds and environment. I am assuming this is the first use of Boy Scout cooking using any kind of non-firewood heating. There is no mention of prior use of gasoline or kerosene-powered stoves, not do any of my Scout manuals or the Field Book mention them.

    My scouting was in the 1950's and 1960's. I graciously defer to an Scouters from the 70's. 80's or 90's for any information on Boy Scout camp cooking and stoves and fuels used during that time.

    Sincerely (and, Be Prepared!!)

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    Thanks for the link, yes my dad was a scout so some of my knowledge was from him.
    Will hunt the net
     
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    And now, here is the latest method for cooking to be used at the Boy Scout Jamboree. Steam tables! Buy the food all pre-cooked, just heat and eat!!


    Tom
     
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    Is there a modern version of a Soyer out there? (BTW if anyone has an actual Soyer they don't want...)
     
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    That seems awfully lame. Convenient, sure. Heck just issue them MREs w/ water activated heaters. Might be cheaper yet.
     
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    The Boy Scouts ain't what they used to be, not by a long shot....
     
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    @Ecocook The origo was primarily I believe for boats and considered safe as Gas is very dangerous to use on a boat as it collects in the bilges and if you forget to vent said bilges before you start up you can go boom and a lot do! Thats why the origo existed and why Taylors is getting a lot of business as people move away from gas, of course the gin palaces use a induction as they will have a gennie on board most of the time.

    Anyway its way too small for your needs and not hot enough, you need a military field kitchen or several 2 burners all lined up in a quadrangle system with a tarp above to keep the weather off. You need a prep area, cooking area, plating up and then somewhere else a cleaning area for dirty plates etc.

    You need a lot of BTU's to feed that lot or you will have to stagger, I know I have cooked quite a lot in my time at scouts for that many and at regattas. Best to hire something in if you cant find it, there are plenty of people who will hire out kitchens for this type or soiree.

    If this is permanent then I would try the local army surplus and see if you can lay your hands on a few diesel burners, completely safe, dont go for petrol or meths burners at all. Just large pressurised ones to give you the heat you need to cook for that many. I bough single burners second hand for 25 to 30 quid before but now i suspect they are more since I left the UK 20 years ago but I think that will be perfect for your needs.