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  1. gieorgijewski

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    it will be soon or very soon
    thats PRYMPOL is ready to store in gallery
    rest need some works and photo sesions
     
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    Yesterday
    - second Polish Spiritus Monopoly can (5 liter) - from now it was "full set"
    - second example "GLOBUS" - but with stamping MADE IN POLAND
    - nice Herbergs Blowtorchs
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    Herbergs in action:
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    just Plug&Play - hundred years ago...
    :)
     
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    Gieorgi,
    More interesting items, may you never cease to amaze, thank you!
    I like, and note the pour spouts on your 2 & 5 litrow spirytus cans. Spirytusowy...
    You are helpful to fellow stovies when you will add more images thank you for that, i look forward to see when you add more images of your stoves.

    You say only, "Herbergs Blowtorch", I like to see nice blowlamp on stove site, and find your Herbergs Löthlampe is interesting:
    > Look very nice, German, but I find no information on Herbergs.
    > You say Blowtorch on blowlamp it says Lothlampe.
    Lothlampe... ok, -lampe can be German, but Loth?... Lothlampe?
    > If it is SRV lid that will somewhat date it (and it is gas, yes?).
    > D.F.G.M. 'Deutsches Reichs Gebrauchs Muster' credit to igh371 for that and that your Lothlampe should be pre 1945.

    > Lothlampe underburn? 1. If it has SRV lid you maybe burn gasoline, but with you we never know, as you have no hesitation to burn different fuels. 2. It is HOT which is good, but is nozzle too hot? 3. Re blowtorch / blowlamp nozzles:
    nozzle inlets/holes let air in to mix with fuel vapor, BUT you show all
    nozzle outlet/holes let flames out (should the holes let air in?).
    Jeszcze raz dziękuję omc

    tag @igh371
     
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    Löthlampe means soldering lamp.
    Same thing in Swedish; Lödlampa.
     
  7. gieorgijewski

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    I investigate HERBERGS - and find only two type of "soldering lamp"
    in HERBERGS - "G" was strange sign
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    D.R.G.M.
    ...-As already noted, the D.R.G.M. registration offered a basic copyright protection for the duration of three years and included the right to indicate the item status by marking the registered items with the D.R.G.M. acronym. It was left to the registration owner to include the registration number as the D.R.G.M. marking alone was the element with legal character.
    http://www.toledo-bend.com/VCL/info_2/drgm.html

    construction:
    preheated tank
    valve
    SRV
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    air is incomig near the nozle - regulated distance, and in "mounting tube" part - thru the holes

    I am sure - photos shows proper works.

    datations +/- 1920-1937
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    2 liter can - was well published
    bouth will be added to EMES in article part.
     
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    next "virtual" discovery...
    amazing 30-ties in USSR - next Tula brand with stamping
    at left -from stove - right from samovar
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    next VIRTUAL finds in PHENIX and SYSTEM PRIMUS subject
    phenix.jpg
    :)
     
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    :-k system Primus? Sounds like someone wanted to cash-in using someone else's reputation![-X Any idea who made the stove @gieorgijewski ?
    But still, interesting find! Gives an extra dimension to the hobby.

    Best regards,

    Wim
     
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    @Wim
    hm... last photo shows connections "SYSTEM PRIMUS" & "PHENIX"
    On the top of THIS page is 4 photo when You can see connections "SYSTEM PRIMUS" & "GLOBUS"

    who made that stove's - Is the subject of my investigations...
    Maker - has great possibility, productions was destinated to the polish market
    part of production was marked MADE IN POLAND - but mostly MADE IN SWEDEN
     
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    Today hunted:
    OPTIMUS
    Industrial burner 1415
    but what model - I dont know yet...
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    Nice find!:clap: Just get flame ring and pump piston, fettle it and put it roaring! :thumbup:
     
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    hi gieorgi,
    Thanks!
    I will want to hear more after you find out.
    It is not same as this 527 but is similar.

    For other stove / apparatus that tank bottom can indicate it is "older" but for these industrial type models (& blowlamps?) that bottom continued in use many years later (1970s).

    2 things I will eventually like to learn,
    > year range for the Optimus Globe tank lid
    > the last year that "AKTIEBOLAGET" appears ON Optimus stove? lamp or any Optimus brass product?

    do you think this is pre-1939?
    thx omc
    (and I gotta run back out btw)
     
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    @OMC
    really - hard to recognise...
    Why do You think it is not 527?

    From today Wedding Stove :)
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    hi Gieorgi,
    Your example has a pressure gauge and slightly different parts. It looks very similar and it might be a 527 but I myself, I do not know. I hope soon you will find out for us.

    Re pre-1939. The 32 catalog features stoves with the globe lid (39 catalog does not).
    thx omc
     
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    early No "0"
    PRI-#-MUS
    but without "A/B"
    pump "PRIMUS PATENT"
    and cyrilic on the tank side - without other "multi lingual signatures"
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    @Bratok_xxl
    Примус походный РККА
    oldest example of collapsible military as possible to find (!)
    7/38 with "full version" signature "Тульского Краснознаменного патронного завода № 176"
    this name was from 1937
    versions from 9/38 has simplificed stamps and was chromed
    versions from 1939 was little bigger - fuel caps mounting was moved to the top of tank
    in this topic was younger versions - and post WWII example

    interesting latin signature on the burner
    FLAMME-USSR TULA

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    Hi Gieorgi,
    Your 2nd stove is very interesting in it's own right but I can only relate to your Primus 0.

    There are only few similar "Primus 0" examples and igh371's pre-1911 Primus 0 is one with close similarities:
    > Both have "PATENT" and the maker mark / bottom tank manufacture stamp is the same.
    > YOUR tank is uniquely stamped on the side... CAN that side stamping be added after manufacture?
    > Both have blank vent screw but a comparison re tank lids I find to be interesting and may be revealing?
    > Pump lids are different.
    Adding this example to SRG might make sense and it might contribute something to understanding the sequence of the earliest Primus. You have amazing finds. thank you omc

    tag @igh371 @Christer Carlsson
     
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    @OMC
    No - stamping was made before tank was closed...
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    This is continuation of probe locate A.B.H. product on externals makets.

    First steps was - "exteral" shields descripted for official distributors
    i know 3 of them
    Mrs. Bade - Russia
    one for distributor in Lwow
    one for UK - was here in gallery
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    thats way of distributions was not effective - thats why personal descriptions desapired
    Most important markets was Russia - for this markets products was started signatured in russian language (on the same place where shields was welded)
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    the same process was later for other countries - We know them as thats "multi languages" signatures on the tank side