Monitor Flame Ring

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  1. Rangie

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    Hi folks,

    Looking for the dimensions of a Monitor 78 flame ring.
    I have been given a burner minus the ring and would like to put it to use.

    O/D is approx 95mm in case I have the model number incorrect.

    Alec.
     
  2. Jeopardy

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    If he still has the one he posted in the reference gallery, Kerophile should be able to oblige.
    Regards
    John
     
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    Hi Alexander, Nothing is simple.
    I believe that this is the burner from a Monitor heavy duty, No. 78 stove:

    https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/11406

    I have it fitted to a Primus no.85, just to be different. It is currently fitted with an improvised stainless steel windshield.
    You can come and see it if you wish.
    Regards,
    George.
     
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    Hi, I meant to say "improvised stainless steel flame ring".
    Regards,
    Kerophile.
     
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    Here is my Monitor 78 next to a standard 2 pint stove.

    1401267355-Monitor_Big_Burner_008a.jpg 1401267372-Newark_2007065a.jpg
     
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    Hi Trevor, Bonny Photos!
    All we need now is for you to measure the dimensions of the flame ring.
    Best Regards,
    George.
     
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    Hi George

    I have sent links of a diagram and photos to Alec.

    In case anyone else is interested (excuse my rough drawing and Imperial units):

    1401275077-Monitor_BB.jpg

    1401275090-FlameTube.JPG

    1401275100-Top_View.JPG

    1401275116-Bottom_View.JPG
     
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    I love the flame shot :thumbup: :thumbup:
    turn it upside down and call NASA , you have lift off.
    cheers
    kerry
     
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    Hi Kerry,
    It's already been done
    https://classiccampstoves.com/posts/44609

    Trevor,
    to get that amount of cast iron glowing like that, are you sure it's a"stove" and not some form of mythical dragon.

    regards
    John
     
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    G,,day Jeopardy. thanks for that link. :clap: i hadn't seen that before . :) :)
    cheers
    kerry
     
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    I am sure I posted the Monitor flame shots in 2007, which was when I last fired it up, but here it is again.

    th_Newark_2007078.jpg


    A closer look into the inferno.

    Newark_2007068a.jpg
     
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    There is nothing to be ashamed of with your drawing and lettering skills on that drawing, Shagratork. Top notch work. Thank you providing it. :thumbup:
    I am going to guess that the taper of the cast iron cylinder was for ease in casting and may not have any necessity for proper function. But, Stu (loco7stove) would likely be better qualified to speak on that as my casting experience is a bit out-of-date (out-of-memory is actually more accurate).

    I enjoyed this thread.
     
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    Hi Trevor, since you have shown yours I will have to show mine:

    1401296896-Monitor-78-Burner-on-Pr_85-.jpg 1401296917-Monitor-78-Burner--2.jpg 1401296927-Monitor-78-Burner-3.jpg 1401296940-Monitor-78-Burner-4.jpg

    This Monitor burner is the same as yours but is mounted on a Primus 85 tank.

    I enjoyed your technical drawing. It had all the information I need to make a proper flame ring.

    Best Regards,
    George.
     
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    Hi Alec

    You might consider making your flame tubes from exhaust pipe. You can get most standard sizes off the web, larger ones Link You can get someone to make them up for you.
     
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    now to build a silent cap for it
     
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    that is a BIG challenge .
    I wonder if it would be possible.
    cheers
    Kerry
    ps ; I am not really expecting anyone to do it .
     
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    Although the flame ring is cast with a tapering thickness, any steel tube with an inside diameter of 3 inches will do. A visit to the local scrap metal merchant would seem a good idea.
     
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    My space rocket works happily with a piece of 3mm thick tubing (not that I light it that much, fuel consumption is rather high... :roll: :whistle: :lol: ). An original cast one would be nice, but is not a necessity really.

    Best regards,

    Wim
     
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    Thanks for the info folks, I'll turn up a mild steel one for now and see how it performs.

    Alec.