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  1. txbruno

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    This Prentiss Wabers stove was waiting for me when I arrived home yesterday. After dinner I unboxed it and started to check it out. With the exception of the fuel cap gasket everything was moving as expected.

    I have noticed a couple of things about this stove that are different from the other PW stoves of this era that are listed in the Gallery. First thing is the corners of the lid are notched instead of square and the other thing is the wind screens are removable. The pics on ebay did not show the inside of the stove so I was pleasantly surprised to find not only the wings but also the legs. Stove was repainted at some point in the past but the legs are the original brown. Enough chatter, here are the pictures.

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  2. 1966dave

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    Very Nice! I have the same model...but without the wind gaurds. Early 20s I believe. I still havent fettled mine and tried to get it running. I have been told you need to do quite a preheat to get them burning.


    Dave
     
  3. txbruno

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    Yes, that is accurate. This one preheated for 10+ minutes before I got it to settle down. That may have been partly due to the fact that it had not been run since forever. I am going to give it another test after I make dinner and see if it lights a little easier.
     
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    It looks similar to a PW Model 3 Auto KampKook dating from 1922-24.

    Terry Marsh has one on his site here (scroll down).

    Yours has slight differences so may be a different Model number.
     
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  5. 1966dave

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    Im pretty sure that is the model. The early ones didnt have the wind shields...the later models had them. At least that is the current theory.
     
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    I have one on the way to me. I look forward to fettling it.

    I look forward to seeing more of yours

    Cheers
    Jeff
     
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  8. Doc Mark

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    Morning, txbruno,

    Long ago, I found a stove like that, at "that same old Swap Meet", where the bulk of my stoves have been found over 35+ years. It turned out to be a Prentiss Wabers, early Model #3, made in 1922-1924. Mine was missing the proprietary fuel cap, just like so many others of that stove have been, but after a long and patient search on my part, and with great generosity on the part of a friend from the Coleman Collector's forum, I finally found a proper fuel cap for my #3. If your stove is like mine, it came with a proprietary pump, which actually screws into the top of the fuel cap via a rubber hose which is stored inside the pump body. Did you get such a pump with your stove?

    Here's what I posted when trying to find info on my own, when I thought it was a #2.

    https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/18745

    To see the proprietary pump in action, please check out this thread by another CCS member, "Chancho". Scroll down a few comments, and you will see excellent photos by my friend "Idahostoveguy", showing this neat pump in action. And, yes, you DO have to prime these stoves in order for them to run properly. You'll see the whole story after checking out Sam's (Idahostoveguy) photos and report. By the way, well done, Sam!! I know you and I were both seeking a proper fuel cap for our pumps, and you did an excellent job of illustrating how it works, in your comments and photos!

    https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/17419

    I hope that helps you txbruno, and that you can see if your stove is in need of a new fuel cap, or if you just need to find the proper pump to work with it. OR, it's possible yours is a little later Model#3, and as such, maybe a normal fuel camp, and PW pump will work perfectly. But, prime, you must, if you want your #3 to work as it should. Believe me, it will be much faster to get the stove running by proper priming, as that ten minute number you cited is unacceptable, and definitely not the way it's supposed to be!! Good luck, and thanks for sharing your new stove with us! I look forward to hearing about, and seeing any pump you may have gotten with your stove! Be sure to scroll carefully through Chancho's tread, page 2, and you will see both Sam's and my proprietary pumps in detail, and see how they should screw into the fuel cap. God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
    Doc
     
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  9. txbruno

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    @shagratork, I have seen the one on Terry's site and it is very similar.

    @Knight84, I am looking forward to seeing your stove, I will keep an eye out for pics.

    @1966dave, I cannot see the stove on the CCF, I no longer have an account there.

    @Doc Mark, I do have the correct fuel cap with the threaded air intake but the stove did not come with any pump. I did see the thread that Chancho posted and reviewed Sam's explanation of the pump and how it works.

    I have run the stove twice since the first night I started it and with a proper preheat is starts right up. That first night I may not have given it enough of a preheat, it may also have been due to the stove not having run in 60 years (the seller indicated that the stove was found in a barn that had not been opened in 60 years).

    I am most curious about the wings that came with this stove as none of the other stoves I have seen pictures of have these removable wings. I have attached a couple of pics for the record. They appear to me to be original to the stove given that there is brown paint showing in spots and the outside connector look like the ones on other PW stoves from that era.

    I know that some of the Model 3s had attached wings and some appear to have no wings, could it be that these removable wings are the earlier version than the attached winged stoves?

    To me it would seem that the attached wing would have come after these detachable wings but I guess they could have made them both ways. This is really confusing to me and I would love to hear your thoughts about this.


    Inside of the wing
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    Outside of the wing
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    The wing slides down the side to attach to the stove lid
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    then it clips onto the stove base to hold the wing and lid in place.
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  10. 1966dave

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    It is very interesting about the wings. Might be the reason for the notched corners on the lid...or at least they took advantage of the notch to allow the wings to be installed. I would think if it was an evolution...they would be between no wings and fixed wings.


    My tuppence..


    Dave
     
  11. Doc Mark

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    Howdy, txbruno,

    If you clicked the second link I sent, and scroll down a couple of posts, you'll see the pump in action. I just checked again, and it's there, if you click and look. Let me know what you get when you click that link, please, and I'll try to figure out why you can't see what's in it. I can post photos of my own pump for that stove, if that's what it takes for you to see them, and glad to do it.

    But, here's the link, again, so give it a peek. Click the link, then scroll all the way through it, and you'll see Sam's pump, and also my pump. Let me know if you can see them, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
    Doc
     
  12. txbruno

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    Mark, thanks, I did see the pics of the pump and how it works. I will be keeping an eye out for one of those pumps.

    Any thoughts on the wings?