New MSR X-GK II Shaker Jet stove.

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  1. Neil B

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    Jet fuel is paraffin / kerosene, I run all my paraffin stoves on it.

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  2. hikin_jim

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    I'm not an expert on petro-fuels, but Zen Stoves says that Jet Fuel contains additives that make it undesirable as a stove fuel. Dunno, but I thought I'd mention it.

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  3. Doc Mark

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    Morning, HJ,

    I could be wrong, but I seem to remember that military spec for any stove is that it has to be able to run on AV gas/Jet fuel. Isn't that right? Been a while since I looked into that, but that's what I remember. For what it's worth.... Take care, and God Bless!

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  4. hikin_jim

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    And the military doing something makes that something safe how? :lol:

    First there's quite a bit of difference between av gas, which is more like automotive gasoline and usually contains lead (I believe it still contains tetraethyl lead even in this day and age) and jet fuel which is more like kerosene.

    Yes, the US military requires that everything run on JP8, stoves included. In all seriousness, the military may do things because of the dictates of military necessity that would not be such a good idea in civilian life. Look at the ingredients of the MRE's that they eat. They're not exactly health food (trans fats, high sodium, heavy preservatives, etc.). But they are calorie rich, easy to eat on the run in the field, and have a good shelf life.

    Having said that, I think jet fuel will work fine in a paraffin/kerosene stove. It's the various additives that might pose a health risk. I'm not so sure that corrosion inhibitor fumes etc. are what I'd want to be inhaling over a period of years. If the stove is used outside in well ventilated area, then the risk would be minimized, particularly if one were cognizant of staying upwind of the stove.

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    The new Military stoves have to run on JP-8, which is Jet-A without several additives. Essentually Kero with cold weather additives .
    The additives might pose a inhalation hazard, But I don't, as a rule, breathe the fumes from any stove, whatever the fuel...

    Jet-A can be gotten free, at any larger airport, from the slops can. Every pilot must check his fuel for water every flight, and the samples go into the slops can.
     
  6. hikin_jim

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    From the way ZenStoves puts it, it sounds like JP8 has more additives than Jet A/Jet A-1.
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