In case you have not procured one for your catalogue of the collekshun... http://www.rei.com/REI-Outlet/product/758705 Can't go wrong with this price. It is interesting, in that, if you go to the store, or buy at the regular REI website, you pay the full price.
Hey, B2M, Check out my posts on the MSR X-GK EX, vs Nova, and you can see we've been discussing this fine buy, already! Better to have more than one post about it, rather than none, though, so thanks for mentioning it again! I got my own 44% off Nova just the other day, and other than the folding handle having been installed upside down, it appears to be outstanding. I'll test it, against my first Nova, and also the new MSR X-GK EX, and post the report and photos, here. Take care, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc Mark
For about a year, you have been able to buy the Nova via ebay for $98 US, but the REI price is even better. I think Mark is right, Optimus will scrap the Nova for the Nova+. When Primus finishe the Varifuel, you could buy them new very cheap. To be honest, in 10 years or less, I doubt there will be liquid fuel stoves made anymore As an indicator, today, I phoned around looking for Kerosene, I would have had to go 15 miles to find a stockest, my local DIY superstore said, "well we do stock it from time to time, but there's not much call for it" On a happy note, one of the last local (well, about 5 miles away) hardware stores sells it in 4 litre containers, and does free home delivery (but I phoned to late for today) and is dropping me off 20 litres on Tuesday.
Here in upstate NY Wal-mart is phasing out Coleman fuel in Gallon cans. It is being replaced with Quart bottles for about what the gallon was selling for 2 years ago. ($4.50US) Now I understand this is quite a bit cheaper than what is available in UK...but it is still cause for concern. They sell their "camp fuel" I imagine I'll try that soon... Kero is available at many rural gas stations. The clear stuff seems to burn better than the stuff with the red dye.
My local garden centre does paraffin at about ?4 for 5 litres. Yesterday I bought ten litres - and then burned seven of them in about two hours. Death to dandelions.
The great thing about k-1 is that it keeps forever. I found a site listing 15 years as a conservative estimate. Anyone have any personal experience with a shelf life for coleman? How do you tell when it has gon off in the can?
I'm not sure it has a shelf life. I once found an opened (and re-closed) can of it that was over 10 years old, was still crystal clear, and worked fine. I've (inadvertently) left it in stove tanks for well over a year, and they fired right up. It's all the additives in gasoline that make it go bad. ....Arch
every supermarket, home decoration, DIY store, etc. has lampoil here. Looking at the label it says pertoleum. Which is Kerosene....
OK, Tijn - doubtless you mean petroleum, which is kerosene in your country. In the UK though, petroleum or 'petrol' is car fuel i.e. what would be called gasoline in the US and, I think, benzin in Germany - not sure what it is in Holland... Over here, we definitely do not want to be putting petroleum in lamps and stoves designed for kerosene - Oh no, definitely not! |imgRemoved|
Why do i have such a low opinion for these stoves (nova and it's ilk). Could it be the fuel line and bottle. perhaps it's the tinny look of them. Yes I'm certain they have a place in the backpack of some folks but to me they all seem gagetty ( no that's not a word but it fits). I looked at them when i was planning a cross country motorcycle trip and ended up with a Coleman 502. It has never let me down, and remains totally reliable to this day. That was back in 1980 and i still have and use that stove. Alas the bike went down in 1990 from a 16 year old girl who forgot her head swiviles about her shoulders. lance
In Germany petrol stoves are Benzin kochers, paraffin stoves are Petrolium Kochers, alcohol stoves are Spiritus Kochers, not sure about Holland though
Lance, the Nova is by no means a flimsy stove, its a solid build mate, as is the Primus Omnifuel (for no real reason I prefer the Nova). The Nova packs away small, and the separate fuel bottle means you can spread the weight in a pack. As much as I've come to really admire my Coleman stoves, the Nova for me, beats them when it comes to packing them in a rucksack for a weekend trip (or longer) Now if its purely car camping, then a Coleman is in the top 5 of my picks of stove Lance, at the money, buy one now, you will be be surprised I'm sure
Click on this link to Doron Papo's International Fuel Names page... Petrol/gasoline is Benzine in Holland and Coleman fuel is Wasbenzine... BTW Q. What happened to the guy who dropped a match into a can of petrol? A. Dunno, he hasn't been benzine since! Old Chemistery teacher's joke - sorry!
Hey, Rik, Lance, and All, Lance, listen to your Brother Rik, as he has quite eloguently laid out the reasons for the existance of stoves like the Nova. He's also quite right when he says that, for the current selling price, you NEED one and will very surprised at it's small size, and BIG performance!!! Just do it, CWO, and I do believe that you will be very glad that you did!! Take care, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc Mark
My Brother and I were rattling around in my Sister's shed the other day and found a nearly full can of Coleman fuel that our Dad had bought. I put some in a 123 I wanted to test. Works fine. The price tag reads 1963 and $0.29. I have no idea how long it will last in an unopened tin. It most likely has a half life, not a shelf life. But still, 44 years for an opened can of Coleman fuel ain't bad. Not too bad at all. Gerry
Dad-gummit, Doc! Now you've done it ! Made me buy another stove! ( Leastways, thats what I'm gonna tell 'The Boss') (( And you have my permission to blame me, should the occasion arise ))
