I've got a Primus No.1 with no date letter - so pre 1911. This was the one that singed Jimmy Biffa's eyebrows at Sykeside 2005 (where it seemed to be frequently mis-identified as a No. 5) It was given to me, free, at Newark 2005. Being a non-stovie, I took it round to Ross' house for some TLC because the nipple wouldn't screw down into the burner. Ross recognised it from the two flats that had been filed into the filler cap (the knurling had worn away with heavy use!) as one he'd owned previously. He told me it had been to Australia where Handi Albert had machined an insert into the pump guide which had worn oval. Sure enough, when I looked closely, Albert's excellent repair could just be seen. Probably I would never have noticed it if Ross hadn't pointed it out... Sorry, no recent pics - the stove is around here somewhere, but I don't recall seeing it for at least a couple of years. It'll turn up... [-o
Good morning Anders! No, it's not but I've found an article from 1949 where the topic is: "Who invention the 1:st kerosene stove". In that text it says something like this: "C.R Nyberg patented his invention year 1881, but two years earlier the Assurans stove got patented". I don't know anything more about the Assurans stove.... Take a look at this picture: From left ro right: My Assurans stove, Technical Museum's Assurans stove and Technical Museums's C.R Nyberg stove. Compare those Assurans stoves with C.R Nyberg stove - Isn't they identical? On some how, C.R Nyberg must have "copy" the design of the Assurans stove. Look at the legs, the tank and the burner! The legs are identical, aswell the tank and almost the burner. Could the man who produced the Assurans stove know C.R Nyberg? It's impossible to design two identical stoves without seeing one stove, so my conclusion is that C.R Nyberg tried to "copy" the design - Just like a Russian No 8 and one Optimus No 8. Any more ideas? Best Regards, Magnus Thilander
Magnus - in the article you mention it asks who invented the first kerosene stove? I'm guessing they are referring to non-wick stoves? My understanding is that the Assurans & Nybergs early stove were petrol fueled? You've mentioned elsewhere that Svenson made the Assurance? Was it not a guy called Forsberg?
Ernie - what does it have written on the tank? Looks like one of those USA made Primus I was talking about in another thread. If so it's late 1890's to early 1900's
Great thread but one thing it has brought to my attention. Many of these great stoves aren't in the Stove Reference Gallery! Could I suggest the pics are ALSO posted there so future visitors may find them more easily? Thanks!
Hi Ross! The article was not about wick stoves. Yes, the stoves runs on petrol. The man who invention the Assurans stove was Forsberg, not Svensson. I don't know what happend with the Assurnas production.... Maybe C.R Nyberg bought the factory or something like that? Best Regards, Magnus Thilander
Good morning Doc! What a neat stove!! Love the design of the stove Did you bought that stove on ebay recently? Great flame on it aswell!! Have you tested to do coffee on that stove? If not, do it! The condition of the stove are very good even if it's from the late 1800's!! Great score Doc! Thank's for sharing! Best Regards, Magnus Thilander
Hey, Ross, Following your lead, I've just reposted my Hauck and Son Meths stove in the Reference Gallery. I hope that's what you had in mind. Take care, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc
I almost forgot about these two, They've been tucked away on a shelf. They are Lamp Stoves. The one on the left is a # 10 and was made by 'The Taylor & Boggis FDY.CO of Cleveland. the one on the right Was made by C.D. & G.S. Co. of Gardener, Mass look like a Florence Lamp Stove. No dates on either. These I would put in the category of No Fettle Stoves. I even thought twice about using a tooth brush on them to get the info off them. The Mica is still whole in both of them.
Yep - from what I could see of the writing on the tank it is the fancy writing of the US model. No 'Made in Sweden' clinches it for me. The missing filler cap would have the following on it 'PRIMUS COOKING & HEATING APPARATUS Co NEW YORK PAT JULY 4. 93.' Any chance you could post that pic in the Stove Reference Gallery under the heading of Primus No:1 - USA. I'll add the pics of mine in due course. Thanks
Hi Ross, Once the new site is up, I'll be glad to post this in the Reference section. Should have done it when I first posted, but I had no idea of the interesting directions the responses were going to take -- my aim was just to crow about buying some stoves. Question: Given the great responses to the original post, is there any way to move the entire post into the Reference section? I wouldn't mind giving it a new title, with the "Victoria" brand in it. The Svea 123 and alcohol burner at the start might be a bit of a distraction, but I wouldn't want to lose the contributions from other members -- the ones from kerophile and Doc Mark were especially good, and put the Victoria somewhat in its historical perspective. ....Arch
Thanks Arch I really do not want to stop posts like this - they are great fun! My concern is that the amount of great reference photos that appear under a thread title that often doesn't give a real clue to what may be inside. What I'd like is for the pics to appear in a thread like this & the Reference section under a relevant title ie make & model. I'd not want to move this thread or your Viktoria thread as they contain references to other stoves & I'd not want to split them up. Same with the thread on dating 111's - which now contains some excellent pics of various 11's Many posts here predate the availabilty of the reference gallery so will get moved eventually as I come across them - if a post is more diverse I will extract the pictures myself. I fully expect & would encourage further discussion on stoves posted in the reference section but would like it to develop into a fantastic illustrated resource of the stoves that we discover. The main difference with the Stove Reference Gallery on CCSv3 is that the forum will be indexed by title & thumbnail unlike a normal forum. It will still be integrated fully into the overall forum structure unlike a lot of gallery or album features in forums where they appear as a different section altogether.
