Hey all, here is the latest project to come off of my fettling block. I must admit that I am very happy with the way that it turned out. This one took about 8 months on and off. You can see what it originally looked like. It is the small icon that I use on my posts. I am going to have to fire this up as soon as I get some kero. Yahoo! Of course I am going to have to wait another couple of months as it is still 100+ here during the day. What do the rest of you have on your work benches. I wanna see.
Hey, Evil, Nice! VERY nice!! Great job on that one! Where did you get the "hang tag"? That's a nice touch. I have some photos of my Optimus 930 project, which I will post when we return from our Fort Bridger trip. Until then, keep up the fine fettling! Take care, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc Mark
Gads man that looks a treat. What is that little thingy in the red box to the right of the heater? lance
Very nice job and setup. I have a couple of Monitor brand reflectors in polished aluminium, but I like the copper? brass? reflector on yours, superb All the best
Doc, Rik, and Lance, Doc, Post them up when you get back. I love to see things as they progress. I too have a 930 project currently on going. I don't know if you were able to see it the pic but it is back there all buried up. I am searching for original glass, the bulge barrel type. The hang tag is original but it was for and old model #96 1/2 pinter that I bought. I thought it added a cool touch to it. I put that on there just for the pics. Lance, If I am not mistaken you are talking about my little Baby Enders 9063. I brought that one back to life a few weeks ago. It was in shameless condition when I got it. I found a paint that is the exact color of the original, there are no differences and it worked flawlessly. Actually half the paint on that little tank is original and the other not. I painted it up and sanded, buffed and you cant tell. Literally. The container was the hardest part. Rusted and bent. I heated it up, bent it back as near as I could and filled in the pitted holes with silver solder, sanded and then painted. You would really believe the set to be new as everything is included, even the funnel. Rik, I don't have any of teh Monitor branded ones. I do have several Tilleys. An R1 and a 155 that is new and in the original box. What a big box. Both of them have the chrome reflectors which really pump out the heat, but you are right, nothing warm and soothing like the brass. I got sniped on what I believe was a 'Vapalux Bowl fire'? Once in a blue moon they show up on this side of the pond. Shipping will break you back coming from the UK. It costs 10P just to send a 1/2 pint Optimus 96, imagine a T 155 ! I bought this stove from a woman in Florida. I bought it off of Ebay and paid way to much for it. The pics were terrible so I went for it, went deep too. I got it, looked at it and about $hit my britches. It was a mess. Whoever had it before decided that when they could no longer get it to pump and hold pressure then the next thing to do was to fill all the holes and caps with that black liquid electrical tape crap. Basically "TAR". I wanted to cry considering the amount paid. Everything was there though and in pretty good shape, all things considered, so like Mr. Angelo, I starting chipping away at the stone and yes it is fully functional. Well, enough about my stuff, I am ready to see everyone elses. Rob
Coleman Solus by anyother name. I just looked at the feet on that thing an sure enough they match the Coleman Solus stove on my work-me-up-bench. Now I know as i have always wondered, the Solus was made overseas and imported by Coleman. I always thought so and this proves it to me. Anyone else doubt the authenticity of this thesis. lance BTW: Evil my current fettle is a Petromax 500 cp lantern. Parts will come from Britelyte in New Port Richey, Fl. Best to you. lp
Very interesting thesis, Lance. I took a look at the Primus 110 in my office and its feet are almost identical, with the four "flutes". Bigger, of courseq; the 110 is a 3-pinter. I hadn't heard this proposition before; Coleman importing Swedish stoves! My Hipo 2 has feet, but not this ornate type.
Hi Evil: Great job!!! Are you set up to nickle plate? I have some restoration to do on a few stoves and some require plating. BTW how did you handle the decal on the Baby Enders when you painted? Gordon
I believe they were mainly made in Canada and the USA - the later US variant having ornate feet. A small amount were also made in the UK, from the appearance I would say Monitor was the maker. This UK made stoves were, I think, also for export to Australia. Monitor and Coleman certainly had some connection as a Monitor blowlamp was sold in Austrlai under the Coleman name.
Hi Rob - nice job! Apart from the No:1s, what you have there is the No:7710 heater attachment. There were a few options: 710 - heater attacment only. 711 - above plus 3 legs & panring to convert 1s to full stove 7710 & 7711 as above but with adjustable, self-cleaning No:1715 burner. Available in brass- polished or nickel-plated. There should be a lower tank protection shield. Looks easy enough to make.
Orgo, I removed the decal before I started. This really gave me a case of the fits but I got it after about two hours. I am not set up for plating but I am looking locally for a place if the price is right. Ross, Cool, I will see if I can manufacture one of those. I have copied the pics and will use them for a template. Of course I will make it out of paper before I start on the real thing. I don't think that is something Coleman would do but I could see them getting the tooling to manufacture them from the Swede's. Still a very rare stove, and I am glad that I am an owner of not one but two of them. Rob
Sorry if I am asking a stupid question, but as I haven't seen any of those heaters, I would like to know one thing about it. Is it an ordinary roarer burner inside that "cup" with the holes in? Is there anything else inside that "cup"? In other words, could a common stove be made into a heater? Sincerely, Anders
It is a silent burner. The burner head is a bit larger and there is a steel ring that is inside of it to protect the brass outer portion from getting to hot and warping/melting. Other than that with a little ingenuity I am sure you could do it. If you would like some internal pics compared with another silent burner, I could do that for you. Rob
Thank You Evil! I would appreciate some more pictures of the heater burner, maybe it could be done somehow
Evil: What was your technique for removal of the decal and keeping it together? I really like your pics! Seeing such good work is a pleasure for the eyes. Gordon
Petro, Shoot me a PM with your email addess and I will shoot them to you. I am sure you could do it, I have actually thought about it myself with some other stoves that I have. Gordon, The particular decal that was on this stove was more like a sticker. I soaked this one in fingernail polish. Regular decals I have gotten off in the past with that bumber sticker and decal remover that you can buy at the autoparts store. It really is hit and miss and I always try on something value less at first. I have actually gotten my wife to help out at times when I am working on the stoves, I don't know if she does it just so she isn't a stove widow though. Either way I enjoy having her in there with me as long as she don't lose the litte parts. Rob
As to the stove feet. Why couldn't Coleman simply have bought feet from Primus, Optimus, or whoever made them. Didn't various manufacturers buy parts from outside suppliers? Gerry
I am sure they probably did and may in fact have. They are identical to the ones on my Solus. There is very little information from Coleman regarding these stoves. Hell they couldn't even give me a total production run or the years they sold them. The brass however is a little heavier on the Solus and the burner stem from the top of the tank is different even though all the threading is metric and interchangeable with the Swedish stoves. I do however cherish them both but it would be nice if there were a little light shown on the subject. The only stove that I think is made as nicely and I find to exquisite, one of the finest stoves ever put to brass in terms of stamping, and fit and finish, (shoot at me guys), is the SVEA 121L. The older version of course and not the cheap later Optimus 00 clone. I have one that is absolutely stunning, not a scratch or ding on it. Rob
Nordic, You got me all spooled up thinking my stove is some half breed. I did some digging around in my dungeon and pulled up the two Sweds that I have with the same feet and low and behold, the size a bit different and the sleeves to fit the pot support is alot different in diameter. In the end, maybe-maybe not. Rob
Hummmlet me see, you will make these stoves with .056" brass. It will be 60/40 brass, with .05% antomony, the feet will be this size, and this shape and the riser tube shall be this length. We want all removeable parts to be threaded. the fount shall retain the traditional shape of the primus or svea 105. It's called contract specifications, and builders plans. I give you the specsand you build to my wants. ooops, i forgot to tell you to use american standard threads, thats okay, use what your tooled for. I still think they were made overseas and imported. It's logical not to have a seperate run assembly line here when the Sweeds have been doing it so well for so long. Stamping will be what ever you tell me Mr. W. C. Colerman after all your paying the bill. I can't think of a better reason why the can't get a production run number, they didn't do the production. Okay i'll accept that perhaps i'm off base but i doubt it. however, when you look at your stove's feet they are porportioned to the size of the stove. That's planning and engineering. Who better to do it than the folks who have been doing it all along. lance
