Optimus 99 - leaking flames/ low BTU

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  1. Zebrasprocket

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    Hi all. Thanks for the great site - it helps a lot.

    Just bought a used Optimus/ Primus 99. The stove fires up quickly and pressurizes, but this stove has two issues I am concerned about:

    - slow heating (low BTU output?), takes about 12 minutes for 500 ml of water to get a rolling boil in the case pan - in an ideal (kitchen) environment. [This time seems slower than expected and original company estimated time in instructions. Is it a wick problem?]

    - during my second firing of the stove, inside the kitchen, I noticed that the stove began to sprout small flames* at the jet nipple and where the adjustment key touches the stove - *once the stove was very hot (about 10 minutes of use). I have not tightened down the parts yet.

    PS. Also - has anyone tried to use a bike pump (presta) to pressurize a stove with the mini pump cap? As a cycle tourist I try to travel light so why bring a pump for both the bike and stove if one will do the duty for both?
     
  2. theyellowdog

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    Hi

    The 99 is a great stove.

    1) 12 min is slow, but stoves never go as fast as the box says they do. I think they consider the small bubbles of a early boil to be boiling.

    Make sure the tank is a maximum if 3/4 full
    brush some soapy water around the tank cap to check for leaks.

    2)You can tighten the stuffing box where the control goes into the burner a little to stop the flame there. (sound like your jet is loose too).

    3) You can use a bike pump but it is much much too big and can cause dangerous over pressuring. The mini pump is very light.

    I hope that helps, happy cycling
     
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    oh, yeah.... put a lid on your pot too!
     
  4. Riddarn

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    I seem to have the same problem,
    but with my fine Radius 42.
    It sort of sputters and flickers
    just around the jetnozzle.

    I have pricked it. lots and lots..
    Can it be something with the wick?
    Or just plain dirt in it?

    Rgds
    Uffe
     
  5. Knight84

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    Hello,

    If I remember right the Radius 42 does not have a wick. I believe there is a brass screen in the feed tube from the tank to the burner though. I may be wrong.
    You might just have a enlarged jet causing problems.

    Jeff
     
  6. theyellowdog

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    Hi Jeff

    The 43 has no wick. While I don't have a 42 the ref gallery shows them to be the same as a primus 71 which does have a wick.

    Uffe, I would try your 42 with a different tank cap and see how it runs before attacking the wick. Replacing the wick is easy enough but the stove may not want to be taken apart.
     
  7. Knight84

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    Ah right I was thinking of the 43. ](*,) :doh: Thanks yellowdog. My mistake.

    Jeff
     
  8. mbechtel

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    In every instance that I got a small flame around the base of the jet, tightening it up a bit has solved it. Flames around the spindle require tightening of the collar. If you have to tighten it so hard that you can no longer turn the key/knob to control the flame, the graphite packing probably needs to be replaced.
     
  9. redspeedster

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    Hi
    The Radius 42 has the filler cap on the bottom of the tank so a leak here would be pretty easy to diagnose.
    It also features a safety release valve that can require adjustment to seal see here.
    Instructions
    Or the seal inside may be beyond adjustment and need replacing.
     
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  10. Zebrasprocket

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    Much thanks for the aid YellowDog.

    I tightened things up and the 99 seems to be running better - a little faster rolling boil times - and no more extra flames.