Optimus Nova Plus - Why no longer produced?

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  1. kim sang hwan Korea, Republic of

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    안녕하세요. 제가 오래된 노바 플러스를 거의 사용하지 않은 제품을 중고로 구입했는데 리콜이 있었던 사실을 알게됐네요. 제 것은 타이완 제조 제품인데요. 이것도 오링 불량 리콜대상인지 아닌지 혹시 아실까요? QA넘버로 확인가능하다고 기사에서 봤는데 제것은 QAxxxxxxxx 형식이 아니고 SNNPxxxxxxx 형식이라서 해당이 없는건지 모르겠습니다.
     

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    Hi @kim sang hwan,

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    안녕하세요. 2009년부터 2010년 사이 중국제조 (All affected Multifuel Stoves have a black burner housing and a QA No. between QA000011 and QA007313)가 리콜 되었던 것으로 알고 있습니다. 이후 공장은 대만으로 옮겼고요. 올리신 사진과 같이 까망색 버너의 QA 시리얼 넘버입니다. 사진은 대만산입니다.
     
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    @kim sang hwan
    Welcome to CCS.

    Can you please translate to English?
    Otherwise, everyone will have to translate to read your post.
     
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    Hello. I bought a second-hand product that rarely used the old Nova Plus, but I found out that there was a recall. Mine is a product made in Taiwan. Do you know if this is also the target of the O-ring bad recall? I saw in the article that it is possible to check with the QA number, but I don't know if it is not applicable because it is in SNNPxxxxxxx format, not in QAxxxxxxxx format.
     
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    Hello. It is known that China-made (All affected Multifuel Stoves have a black burner housing and a QA No. between QA000011 and QA007313) was recalled between 2009 and 2010. After that, the factory moved to Taiwan. As shown in the photo you posted, this is the QA serial number of the black burner. The photo is from Taiwan.
     
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    Thanks snwcmpr! Good translation except the last clauses.
    As shown in your photo posted, the serial no begin with SNNPxxxx with black housing might be fabricated in Taiwan. Hence it would be no item to be recalled.
     
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    Thanks Jose with your kind information with photos in other thread.
    My one is almost same as yours but unfortunately I could not remember the product year.
     
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    Hello SY kimm If you have the model Made in Taiwan you should not have problems, I only recommend that you have a replacement O-ring of the correct material (it must withstand fuels and high / low temperatures) I recommend VITON GLT (Fluorocarbon). Always carrying them with you will not make much weight :) Show us your complete nova + to appreciate details.

    Here is what you should know about the recalled models and the cause, as well as how to convert the nova to the Swedish model with CEJN 14 device.
    So, what does crow taste like? (Nova recall)
     
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    I'm sorry. my english is not good. but i'll try. thanks.
     
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    thank you very much for your translating
     
  12. kim sang hwan Korea, Republic of

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    I have another question. My fuel bottle is licking
    through out the tiny hole of the cap like picture below
    do you have any idea to fix it?
     

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    Hi @kim sang hwan ,

    Either you have a strange non-Optimus cap, or the cap has lost its cover and is defective. You probably need a new cap.

    The current Optimus cap looks like this:

    20200810_152301.jpg
     
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    안녕하세요. 옵티무스 보틀을 가지고있지 않아 정확한 답은 아닙니다만 사진의 캡에 뚫려있는 구멍은 연료를 따를 때 사용하는 구멍으로 해당 구멍때문에 새어나옴이 발생하는것 같지는 않습니다. 다만 윗부분의 회색 구멍이 씰로 막혀있는데 그 부분은 가능성이 있겠네요.
    옵티무스 스토브는 품질이 좀 어떤가요? 솔직히 프리무스 제품은 실망을 많이 했습니다.

    Hello Kim, I don't have any OPTIMUS part so can't comment the exact answer, yet I think the tiny hole of that cap is called as "Pouring hole" so it wouldn't be a defect and not makes leaking by itself. Meanwhile I don't know about the above another tiny hole with a Gray thing, it might be the reason why.
    Yun
     
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    안녕하세요. 답변 감사합니다.
    나사 위의 구멍으로 연료를 따르는 건지 처음 알았네요^^
    좀 더 살펴보니 회색 씰로 막힌 구멍에서 새는 것이 명확해졌네요. 아마도 새로 사야할 거 같아요.
    제가 액체연료 스토브를 처음 사용하는 것이라서 품질을 평할 수준이 못됩니다. 그냥 제품 자체로 보면 품 마감이나 만듦새, 액세서리 구성, 매뉴얼 수준은 좋은 것 같습니다. 다만 노바+는 연료라인에 조절기가 있는데 라인이 휘어있으면 조작이 수월하지 못하네요.

    Hi @Yun¹²⁴. Thanks for your reply
    I never knew the hole above screw is for pouring fuel.
    I finally find out the the hole with gray rubber makes the problem. Maybe I should buy new one.
    I can't evaluate the quality of Optimus stove because it's my first liquid fuel stove.
    but I think its finishing touches, workmanship, composition of accessories and manual are good.
    nova+ has its fuel control valve on fuel line. and it's not easy to handle with the line curved.
     
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    안녕하세요. 말씀 감사합니다. 듣기론 옵티무스는 msr의 셰이커 제트와 같이 달리 제트를 후벼파지 않아도 대략 뚫기가 된다고 하던데 그 기능이 정말 중요한듯 합니다. 프리무스는 아직도 그러한 기능이 제공되지 아니하니 황당할 정도에요. 현행 옵티무스가 대만산이라 하여 프리무스를 샀는데 영 낭패를 보았습니다.

    해당 Pouring hole의 정확한 명칭은 저도 잘 모릅니다. 다만 그 용도는 휘발류, 등유 등의 액체 연료를 졸졸 따를 때 사용하는 구멍입니다. 아마 반댓편에도 구멍이 있어 숨구멍으로 기능하고 있을겁니다. 막상 사용해 보면 별달리 편리한 부분은 잘 모르겠습니다만은 용도는 그렇습니다.
    그 회색으로 막힌 구멍은 왜 있는지 모르겠는데 아마도 온도 등으로 압력이 과하게 높아졌을때 씰의 탄성에 의해 밀려남 - 그 틈으로 압이 빠지는 일종의 체크밸부의 역할이 아닌가 싶기도 하네요. 본 적이 없어서 추론일 뿐입니다. 제 영어가 짧아 쑥스럽네요. 오늘도 즐거운 하루 보내세요.
    Hello @kim sang hwan , Thanks for yr reply. It's pretty good to hear that you're satisfied with Optimus Nova stove which was not made in China instead of TW.
    Regarding the tiny hole with a gray seal, I was thinking it was the suspect for its leaking, and it's correct that you confirmed. I've curiosity why that kind of gray hole had been originally designed by the manufacturer, I only can expect Why - [for safety reason? a kind of the check-valve function?] but can't sure really it was the reason why. hope to know from somebody else in this forum.
    I'm happy to talk with Korean in this forum thanks. Regards, Yun from Seoul