Penetrating oil

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  1. Zincman

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    A motoring pal sent me this which is vaguely relevant to stove fettling if you have immovable nuts (hexagonal ones that is)

    Interesting info. for gearheads please share

    Got some rusty nuts?

    Penetrating Oils Compared

    Machinist's Workshop magazine actually tested penetrants for break
    out torque on rusted nuts. Significant results! They arranged a subjective
    test of all the popular penetrants with the control being the torque
    required to remove the nut from a "scientifically rusted" environment.

    Penetrating oil Average load

    None ..................... 516 pounds

    WD-40 .................. 238 pounds

    PB Blaster ..............214 pounds

    Liquid Wrench ...... 127 pounds

    Kano Kroil ............ 106 pounds

    ATF-Acetone mix... 53 pounds

    The ATF-Acetone mix was a "home brew" mix of 50 - 50 automatic
    transmission fluid and acetone.

    Note: The "home brew" was better than any commercial product in this
    one particular test. A local machinist group mixed up a batch and all now
    use it with equally good results. Note also that "Liquid Wrench" is about as
    good as "Kroil" for about 20% of the price.
     
  2. David Shouksmith

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    I'm still using a can of Plus-Gas, I bought about 7-8 years ago - mainly so I could use the can for meths to prime Bialaddin and Vapalux lanterns.

    At the time it was cheaper to do that than buy a spirit can from the likes of Base-Camp (V2 - £14.95 plus P+P) and Bairstow Bros ( V2 - £9.50, but subject to £15 minimum order + carriage + VAT on both)...

    I think WD-40 isn't a penetrating oil, as such - it's a water-dispersant (hence WD). I seem to recall it's no more than paraffin (kerosene) with some sort of perfume added - it does smell nice!
     
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    We visited this topic not long ago. I made up a batch of the atf-acetone stuff and it seemed to work better than "liquid wrench" and some other old penetrating oil I have around ( "Tis-Quick" is the brand name, very old can. )
    My two cents worth. ;)
     
  4. David Shouksmith

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    Notwithstanding it's undoubted efficacy, I think there may be 'issues' (such as flammability) with the ATF/acetone mixture. That might explain why it's not commercially available.

    But I guess you just need to be aware of these things and use it appropriately... 8)
     
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    Aero-Kroil! :thumbup: I bought the pair of big spray cans (16.5oz) they they were selling as a two-fer-one intro deal a year and a half ago. I'm still working through the first can. A very tiny amount is all you need, so it should last me a few years yet. YMMV.

    An overnight soak with Aero-Kroil and a heated NRV wrench head and no NRV will dare to stay frozen. Just my opinion, of course. :lol:

    Best,
    Gary
     
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    WD40 (water displacement, 40th formulation) is highly flammable also, so much so that it can not be used in off-shore drilling settings. I forget what they use, but its not WD40.
     
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    In the UK, you can't beat Plus Gas and Duck Oil. Or traditional glycol brake fluid, fresh or used, and various things can be added to this to improve penetration. Most important factors though... time to allow the stuff to penetrate, and patience! :lol: WD-40 is a water displacer, it is useful for displacing water (suprisingly!) but poor as a lubricant and penetrant.