Thanks Snowgoose: Actually I am a photographer by trade for a full time living. Its what I do to pay the bills. You are correct about using the tripod I actually mentioned it as advice to some others here on the board. The reason I did not use one in those photos was due to it being at the meet and great with Ron and I did not bring a tripod with me at the time. Also yes the other poster mentioning turning down the ISO on your camera he is right but this also depends if your able to do so with your camera that you are using. Also a good tip is to be sure to shoot with your color balance "Cooler" than normal say 4,400K to make your flames nice and punchy blue. Its also a fine balance of the shutter speed and the aperture to get enough depth of field for the flame. The photos I did above were just snapshots with a hand held at 20th or 30th sec. Which is relatively hard to hand hold steady when shooting with a 50mm at F1.8 but I was just taking a snap in a hurry was not trying to be 100% spot on with the photo. Next time I will be more conscious of my photo taking. Phew tough crowd here. LoL
Christer: I bet it was due to it being an older point-and-shoot camera or something, as the older 4 years or older cameras were pretty noisy sensors and maybe he cropped the image a bit so that's why its so noisy. Snowgoose: no disrespect when I say older camera. I try to get as much mileage out of the dollars spent on cameras and gear before upgrading. So I don't mean you're outdated or have a bad camera. I mean it in the nicest way. As I really enjoy your outdoor photos and videos. They some of the best on this site.
Perhaps. The camera in use is obviously a Canon PowerShot A540, so absolutely a point and shoot. Still, shouldn't be so noisy if the ISO is manually set to around 80-100. Cropping might be the thing, as you suggest, but hardly just 'a bit'. It would take quite alot to make that kind of noise.
This stove was seen at Newark some years ago. It is a Monitor but I have no idea about its model number. I call it my Monitor FBB (Fuc**ng Big Burner). First photo with a Monitor 2-pint for comparison. Second photo with a big Primus No2 for comparison. Notice the relative size of the burners. Next - in action . . . . .
Videos??? Not me, must be someone else!! There was a great British photographer, Bert Hardy, who worked for Picture Post. He once said that a good photograph could be taken with ANY camera, and to prove it he did a photo-shoot using just a simple “Box Brownie”. One of those photos became very famous – it showed two girls sitting on some railings with the skirts swirling. I am of that school. I have had hundreds of photographs published in many magazines, dozens in books and I use simple cameras.
Carlesson: You would be surprised at the noise level on some camera models from a while back and if its the Canon A360? type model you said it was, those are the time line of point and shoots where the sensor and software running them were sometimes not all that great. I had a great quality Olympus 5060. I believe that was a $550 nice high end point and shoot for the time. I loved the camera and lens and the solid metal frame body with the hotshoe flash connector on top - all of which was unheard of in those times. However, it had the worst noise levels in the photos out of any other camera out at the time. So sometimes its just the model of camera. Also, I notice some auto cameras tend to act oddly with fireworks shots, moon shots or dark photos like the flame shots on those older point and shoots, even though they may be set to IS0 80 or 100. Oh well. Tripod for sure though. Now back to the flame photos...
OK, I did not say that owning a older camera was a bad thing. I actually said that I meant no harm in mentioning what the noise in the photo may be do to the older cameras sensor. Considering I do this for a living and have used all types of cameras both large film formats to latest 20 megapixal medium format film backs, I am well aware of the yahoos who buy the latest camera and think that makes them a great photographer. Anyone that has met me or knows me at all knows how I feel about that owning fancy new shiny gear versus actually being a good photographer. This is my famous speech I give quite often i.e."Just because you buy a expensive brand new guitar does not make you a great musician" And I say it a lot to many who are always bugging me and asking me what lights I use or camera. This usually is often followed by a roll of my eyes and then the speech mentioned above. But like I said earlier, I never meant to imply your camera is a bad camera, it just might have been the reason why there was the grainy noise in the photo. That actually does not bother me in the least. It was someone else who pointed out the noise in the image you posted - it was not me. Nothing wrong with taking a photo with a pin hole or a polaroid - I couldn't care less about the tool used as long as it works. So I think if you re-read my post earlier, you will see I had no intentions of saying you do not know what you are doing and that you camera is bad. So please try to see that.
Shagratork, now don't stir the pot. I don't want to flare anyone up as I like all here. I bet you love to drop the seed of sin in the family gatherings and the step back and watch. Carlson cadilac: See what you started... Presscall: Yes, noise is the new grainy. They used to call film grainy, now they call it noise. Why the name was changed? - probably some newbie digital photographer or technician reviewer that had his knowledge-base in technology or computers dubbed it "Noise" and thus the new name, but it means the same. The same way that the newbie fanboy idiots all call anything to do with "Flash" photography "Strobist" which it is not. Noise shmoyze... I just like the flame photos and a good picture is a good picture, noise or not.
Very poor Juwel 41 flame shots. I have been using an old Fuji to make it easier to reduce the file size as my Nikon takes massive files. How do you get good flame shots? The ones in the dark are better. Do you use a tripod?
