Oh - we don't stick with one subject when half a dozen will do . . . . To add: £25 for 20 litres. Garage in Ditton Priors, Shropshire, UK.
lol itchy. Yes, not the most informative or detailed explanation there. kerry - that's the price of kerosene? $20-$25 US per gallon? Ouch, that's $$ - double what it is here. lol buzz. It's never black and white, rarely unanimous consensus nor are things predictable, so most threads do end up with a few tangents.
Link Still the same around here: 75.9p (US$1.15) a litre = £3.45 (US$5.22) a UK gallon = £2.87 (US$4.33) a US gallon Terry
Hope this helps to distinguish between fuels (to stick with the subject ): Different fuels can be distinguished by the number of C-atoms in the fuel molecules: The refinery separates different types of fuel by boiling temperature creating different "fractions". The shorter (lower number) the chain, the easier it evaporates. That's why butane (C4) is a gas at room temperature, gasoline (C5-C9) is liquid but still evaporates (hence the flammability) and kerosene (C6-C16) or diesel (even heavier) does not evaporate nor catch fire at room temperature. That only the vapour and not the liquid burns, explains a lot: 1) Why gasoline burns at room temperature (it evaporates) 2) Why stoves have a burner head to gas fuel before burning (instead of burning liquid) 3) Why Diesel does not work well in stoves (too heavy to evaporate using a kerosene stove burner head). Different fuels by number of C-atoms: C3 -> Propane C4 -> Butane --> C5 up to C12 is naptha, which is a crude or less refined type of gasoline. Then naptha is refined further into other types of gasoline (car gas, petrol, coleman fuel, etc) -> In chemistry pure gasoline is C8. -> Coleman fuel is a mix of Pentane (C5), Cyclohexane (C6), Heptane (C7), Octane (C8) and Nonane (C9). -> Car gas/Gasoline/Petrol is a mixture within this range and additives to work well in cars. --> C6 to C16 is kerosene/parrafin. --> C8 to C21 is diesel. The gasoline I buy is called "wasbenzine", is C7-C9 and costs 1.35 Euro/Liter Kerosene costs 30 Euro for 10 liter. Cheers, Peter
Hi Peter, are you sure the price for kerosene (paraffin) is 30€ per 10liters? In Belgium some people (not me! ) pay 30€ for 20liters so called "ultra smokeless" fuel in the do it yourself shops (this fuel is supposed to burn cleaner in the modern heaters like Zibra Kamin etc.). I get mine at the pump for slightly more than 1€ per liter. I did once buy one of the 20liter stuff but found it to be a waste of hard earned money!!! Best regards, Wim
Hi Wim, Yes I'm still looking for a cheaper source of paraffin. I've bought it now at the "Gamma". Lamp oil works but not as well as paraffin. Do you know any sources? Maybe find a Zibra retailer .. Peter
@ Dutch Peter, As far as I know this: http://www.olielampen.nl/brandstof/petroleum.html is the cheapest I ever found in the Netherlands for real Paraffin. Bart
Baja. Thats a great price, although, you'd spend the difference and more just for the drive unless is scenic. Rick
It's on the way, when we head north on vacations, so I try to stop on the way home. It's a small chain, mostly in the San Francisco area, called "Rotten Robbie". Strange name, good prices.
About 140-200 kronor per five litres container when you can find it (it's generally four litres nowadays), depending of where you get it. Alkylate petrol is pretty much about the same, unless you not necessarily must find the more posh Aspen, which still pretty much is the same as any other generic alkylate one. But even that old Swedish brand is quite affordable when buying directly from a pump at e.g. a marina.
"lol buzz. It's never black and white, rarely unanimous consensus nor are things predictable, so most threads do end up with a few tangents."Same here ahahahah. Sometimes tangents are the best adventures and most fun ever.LOL All good buzz
Ah Bartok, thanks for the Russian report. Too busy today for me to pick up a gallon of kerosene from the MFA CO-op. , maybe tomorrow maybe, I want to lay in some more kerosene before it goes to $5.00 a gal. So far from what's been posted I have a good deal @ $4.70/ gal. U.S. buzz
Dutch, I'm saving this to documents, all good, Thanks for the fine tooth comb explanation of fuels. "Different fuels can be distinguished by the number of C-atoms in the fuel molecules: The refinery separates different types of fuel by boiling temperature creating different "fractions". The shorter (lower number) the chain, the easier it evaporates. That's why butane (C4) is a gas at room temperature, gasoline (C5-C9) is liquid but still evaporates (hence the flammability) and kerosene (C6-C16) or diesel (even heavier) does not evaporate nor catch fire at room temperature. That only the vapour and not the liquid burns, explains a lot: 1) Why gasoline burns at room temperature (it evaporates) 2) Why stoves have a burner head to gas fuel before burning (instead of burning liquid) 3) Why Diesel does not work well in stoves (too heavy to evaporate using a kerosene stove burner head). Different fuels by number of C-atoms: C3 -> Propane C4 -> Butane --> C5 up to C12 is naptha, which is a crude or less refined type of gasoline. Then naptha is refined further into other types of gasoline (car gas, petrol, coleman fuel, etc) -> In chemistry pure gasoline is C8. -> Coleman fuel is a mix of Pentane (C5), Cyclohexane (C6), Heptane (C7), Octane (C8) and Nonane (C9). -> Car gas/Gasoline/Petrol is a mixture within this range and additives to work well in cars. --> C6 to C16 is kerosene/parrafin. --> C8 to C21 is diesel. The gasoline I buy is called "wasbenzine", is C7-C9 and costs 1.35 Euro/Liter Kerosene costs 30 Euro for 10 liter. " Thanks again...Dutch, buzz
this has to be repeated. lol my country cousin 'Hoot Owl' rants and rages about California fuel safety-can standards etc;.
