Radius 43 Form over Function?

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  1. dday

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    Retro would look great! Those coors are catchy. Different from all the others is not a bad thing and would make it stand alone from the rest. Don't hold back on telling us your new turbo electrolysis. I do not think I can stand using chemical stripper again :lol: . Its a real PIA. Thanks in advance for your secret turbo method if you choose to share it.
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    mmmmm if i told you everyone else would know then i won't be able to flood the market with resprayed ex army 111t's and make my fortune :-k :lol:
    i did away with the battery charger and crocodile clips and used a huge 670amp 12v van battery and some heavy duty jump leads :shock: :lol: for the anode i used a u shaped computer case cover and placed the stove case inside it opened out so both sides got zapped at once
    you could sit there with a fag (smoke type fag) and watch the paint bubbling
    do it with loads of ventilation or outside as all those bubbles are hydrogen and you know what happened to the Hindenburg :shock: :lol:
     
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    Hi Bill, I really like the black that you painted your 111, but... I think keeping the same colour is the way to go. :D my 2 cents.
     
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    Really nice pics! Thank you Mike and Bill!

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    thinking inside the box huh Parra? ;) outstanding idea :clap: i like the original colors myself and just might use them on mine (tomorrow's the delivery date!) if i cant find a good match for the green.
     
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    Thank you Bill. I may give your secret a try in the next week or so. I've never used any method similar, and will ventilate well. Thanks a bunch!! Have a good evening.
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    had this stove 2 minutes and found something to bitch about! i tried to take the pump rod out but i cant get my fingers around the pump cap to screw it out. the threads are stuck and the cap is in a shallow recess. but i like the way it opens flat and how the wind guard and flame spreader cant be lost easily. 1245458318-000_0106_opt.jpg
     

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  8. P. Lynn Miller

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    I won't take sides in this debate... but my Radius 43B sees regular and hard use as my primary stove.

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    Here is the Radius 43B with my touring kit..

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    And have made many a fine meal with the it...

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    Not sure that life gets much better than this...

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    Just my 2¢

    P. Lynn Miller
    Sydney, Australia
     
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    HI, Lynn,

    Welcome to CCS, Lad!! Your photos are very nice, and I appreciate the 43 as much as do you. Mine is still being "fettled", as it does have a few problems. But, what's the problem there? We LOVE to fettle our stoves, don't we??!! :thumbup: ;) :D

    Nice post, and great photos, Lynn. Take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
    Doc
     
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    great post Lynn! having had the time to use it, i really like my 43. Brice
     
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    i reckon just looking at your pics shows which side of the fence you are on ;) :lol: lovely pics of a great little stove and being used as intended what more could you want 8)
     
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    Morning, Lads,

    I have tried and tried and cannot remove the NRV from my Radius 43! I've soaked it in boiling water, added penetrating oil, and every other trick I can conceive, but with no luck, so far. I fear I'll have to cobble a very long, T-handled wrench in order to get the NRV out of this stove. But, I guess the effort will have been worth it, when it's a done deal. After seeing all the great photos of other's 43 in action, I'm keen to get mine up and running, too! :thumbup: ;) 8) :D Take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
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  13. P. Lynn Miller

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    Thanks for all the compliments... yes, I do like my Radius 43B very much.

    I am not really a collector, although I have a few spare stoves just in case...

    Doc... as for the NRV(non-return valve?) on the Radius 43B, so far I have not needed to service mine. The NRV on my 43B does leak abit, as there the plunger does extend out of the tank after while when in use. So I would be very interested in hearing how you remove and service the NRV.

    I do need to get a new leather for the pump and a new gasket for the pressure relief valve. I made a few bodgey spares from nitrile leather, but none have really worked as well as the original.
     
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    Morning, P. Lynn,

    I'd most certainly change the NRV on your 43 before continuing to use it. Especially if you are using Coleman fuel or petrol. I usually change mine as a matter of course, along with the pump leathers (which you can buy from CCS member, Sefa, in Turkey.. His are the very BEST!!), and the fuel cap gasket, which I make from nitrile rubber. Most of the time, the NRV assembly on stoves comes right out, but one in a while, I find one that is obstinate and just won't budge with the T-wrench that is usually used to do this chore. Most of us make a large "wrench" out of a big bolt, cut and filed to fit the NRV, and that usually works. I have one old Optimus Campingo stove that is going to need to have the fuel pump tube removed in order to get at the inside bits of the NRV. Our CCS member, Exceter_yak, has sent info and tools for me to do that, but it still scares me to begin that task!! :shock: :shock: I know that, with the info that's been sent me, and the tools at hand, I should be able to accomplish this task, but have yet to undertake beginning it.... Oh, well....

    If you need a wrench for NRV removal, you can buy on on the Bay of Evil, now and then, or simply make your own. Doing a search here at CCS should turn up the threads that detail how we do that. Take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
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    Doc,

    Can you post some photos of the refurbishment of your '43'? Especially when working on the NRV?

    All this stove talk is giving me the itch to really give my '43' a good and very long over-due overhaul...

    Can you forward that address of the leather seller from Turkey? PM or E-mail is fine.

    Thanks,
     
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    Hi, P. Lynn,

    PM sent with Sefa's info, and a few other things. Take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
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    Doc,

    PM received... thanks!!!

    I will continue to use my 43B 'as-is' until I get the new leathers from Sefa, then I will give it a good overhaul.

    Thanks,

    Lynn
     
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    Hey, Lynn,

    You are very welcome! You're going to LOVE Sefa's fantastic pump leathers, too! Absolutely the very best! Take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
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    Doc,

    Here is what I really need...

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    This is the gasket used in the pressure relief valve on the tank. I have made a few from nitrile sheets but none work as well as the original.

    Anyone making these...

    Thanks,

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    OK...

    So I have decided to weigh in on this debate about the practicality of the Radius 43...

    A little history first... I happened upon my Radius 43 at a local Sunday market, saw this little metal case, as soon as I opened it to find a stove inside, I had to buy it, even though at the time, I thought $12 was a bit steep. Serious! In fact, I haggled the seller down to $10.

    I had no idea what I had bought, just a clever little camp stove. So after some internet searching, I happened onto this really amazing web-site devoted entirely to spirit-burning camps stoves, called 'Classic Camp Stoves'. I originally registered with this forum way back in 2003 under the User ID of 'Radius 43B'! I posted a few photos and questions, finding out that the Radius 43B was a petrol burner and was a rather uncommon find. Since I am not much of a collector, I did not hang around very long as I prefer to go camping to sitting in front of a computer.

    After a bit of work, a replacement packing in the valve, I fired up the Radius 43 and it has been with me everywhere I go ever since. I had to made a few replacement gaskets for the pressure relief valve along the way, but other than that the Radius 43B is how I found it...

    Here is a photo I found that I posted to the forum about 6 years ago, right after buying the Radius 43B... looking fresh and clean.

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    I cannot imagine a more perfect stove for what I need... small, self-contained, completely reliable, very economical, and easy to use. It lives in the rear pannier of my touring bike...

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    Speaking of economy, I cannot remember the last time I ran out of fuel while cooking. My usual procedure is to always start with a full tank of fuel and as soon as I arrive at my camp-site, I boil-up a billy of tea, then put a pot of potatoes on to boil while I set-up camp...

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    After the camp is set-up and the potatoes boiled, I brew another pot of tea, and then cook up the rest of dinner...

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    Then I boil-up some water to clean-up the dishes and cooking kit and then, of course, there is the obligatory cup of tea after cleaning up and heading to bed. All done on less than one tank of fuel on the Radius 43B.

    One of the great things about the Radius 43B is the ability to run the stove on a simmer without surging or fluttering. It will sit and simmer for 20 to 30 minutes without the need to pump it or touch it.

    So I am not sure how you could improve on the Radius 43B. I have been using mine for over 6 years and the only stove I am really serious about acquiring is a few more Radius 43B's for my son's as they are threatening to run-off with mine!

    So why am I back on the forum... I was in a really bad bicycle accident about a month of ago(read about it here) and I am off the bike for a few months, which is driving me mental, but is giving me a chance to go through my gear and make much needed repairs and service. So as I pondered the condition of my Radius 43B, I thought I would check back on the status of CCS, and it has grown by leaps and bounds since my last visit.

    Now for the current condition of the my Radius 43B...

    Definitely showing some signs of hard use...
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    I really need to give it a good clean...
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    There no signs that there was ever a clip for a little bottle of 'meths' like on Dutchmike's '43'...
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    This stove is most definitely a Radius 43B... and a petrol(gasoline) burner. It really likes E10, which 10% ethanol and 90% unleaded petrol, cheap and burns abit cleaner than straight petrol. But loaded with high-octane petrol, you can literally bronze weld at full-throttle!
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    And it looks like a new pump leather from Sefa would a good idea as well...
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    Not sure how you really can improve on this form factor for a very usable and practical stove...
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    To tell you how I feel about the Radius 43B... I had a really tough week, found that my arm is too badly mangled for surgery and in quite a lot of pain, not too mention the fact that I am banned from my beloved Peugeot for at least 3 months, I simply was ready to implode. So I grabbed the Radius 43B and a sleeping bag and slept on the veranda last night. I boiled up a pot of tea and as the Radius 43B hummed in the background I was transported to another world of mountains, valleys, beaches, howling storms, slanting early morning sunlight... as drifted off to sleep. Something so comforting and soothing about the quiet roar of a familiar camp-stove.

    Now that I have driven the prices of every Radius 43B into the stratosphere with this exposé of unabashed praise for this stove, I doubt I will ever get another 43B in my lifetime.

    As many Radius 43 users and collectors may have noticed, the 43 seems to have been made in a confusing array of configurations, at least two different pot holders, silent burners, roarers, made to burn different fuels with at least 2 different letter suffixes.

    It would be really nice if everyone here on CCS could make a note of which '43' they have, which fuel it burns, and how it is configured.

    Enough for now... my cuppa is going cold!

    Lynn
     

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